Re: "vpn exchange point"

2010-07-23 Thread Kenny Sallee
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Vitkovsky, Adam wrote: > > Yes please -option d also known as option AB > -it's the same as option b with addition of VRFs on the ASBRs > -it might as well be viewed as a natural step between opt a and opt b > > -opt ab offers the same great control over the routes

RE: "vpn exchange point"

2010-07-23 Thread Vitkovsky, Adam
kovsky, Adam Cc: Christopher Morrow; Michael Dillon; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: "vpn exchange point" If you are going to go multi-VLAN data plane (as opposed to multi-label) then 10A will cause you scaling issues as you'll need multiple BGP peers (or static routing), I'd prefer

Re: "vpn exchange point"

2010-07-23 Thread David Freedman
If you are going to go multi-VLAN data plane (as opposed to multi-label) then 10A will cause you scaling issues as you'll need multiple BGP peers (or static routing), I'd prefer to use http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kulmala-l3vpn-interas-option-d-02 which already has implementations, i.e (alb

RE: "vpn exchange point"

2010-07-23 Thread Vitkovsky, Adam
Yes please I believe that what Michael have mentioned by the mpls NNI is actually the RFC 2547bis Option 10A And yes please as Chris mentioned this Option 10A is used mainly between two different administrative domains (ISPs) because of the lack of trust and maybe a sort of configuration simpli

Re: "vpn exchange point"

2010-07-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Michael Dillon wrote: >> Do you know of any "vpn exchange point" implementations please? -I mean >> something like IXP but for mpls vpns >> >> Let's say I'm an ISP that bought or merged with many small ISPs each w

Re: "vpn exchange point"

2010-07-22 Thread Michael Dillon
> Do you know of any "vpn exchange point" implementations please? -I mean > something like IXP but for mpls vpns > > Let's say I'm an ISP that bought or merged with many small ISPs each with > it's own AS# and would like to start offering mpls vpn serv

Re: "vpn exchange point"

2010-07-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
equinix ethernet exchange On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote: > >> >> On Jul 21, 2010, at 12:59 PM, William McCall wrote: >> >>> OP is referencing MPLS/BGP VPNs, not like IPsec VPNs. And I'm not sure >>> that I've (person

Re: "vpn exchange point"

2010-07-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Jul 21, 2010, at 12:59 PM, William McCall wrote: OP is referencing MPLS/BGP VPNs, not like IPsec VPNs. And I'm not sure that I've (personally) ever heard of an IXP for MPLS. Isn't that what one iteration of IXP-NSP in Japan was? I see

Re: "vpn exchange point"

2010-07-21 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Jul 21, 2010, at 12:59 PM, William McCall wrote: > OP is referencing MPLS/BGP VPNs, not like IPsec VPNs. And I'm not sure > that I've (personally) ever heard of an IXP for MPLS. Isn't that what one iteration of IXP-NSP in Japan was? I seem to recall that they talked about it a lot, back wh

"vpn exchange point" VLAN Exchange Points NANOG50 Atlanta.311

2010-07-21 Thread Jim Fleming
"vpn exchange point" VLAN Exchange Points NANOG50 Atlanta.311 Tagged VLANs make most sense in dense MetroLANs (MANs) What goes on in Atlanta Stays in Atlanta - NANOG50 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.1Q What goes on in North America Stays in North America ? NA ? North America ?

Re: "vpn exchange point"

2010-07-21 Thread Frederick, Kent
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Re: "vpn exchange point"

2010-07-21 Thread William McCall
WM On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Bill Woodcock wrote: > > On Jul 21, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Vitkovsky, Adam wrote: >> Do you know of any "vpn exchange point" implementations please? -I mean >> something like IXP but for mpls vpns > > That would be like an

Re: "vpn exchange point"

2010-07-21 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Jul 21, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Vitkovsky, Adam wrote: > Do you know of any "vpn exchange point" implementations please? -I mean > something like IXP but for mpls vpns That would be like an IXP but for email. Or an IXP but for web traffic. VPNs are an application that run over

"vpn exchange point"

2010-07-21 Thread Vitkovsky, Adam
Hello, Do you know of any "vpn exchange point" implementations please? -I mean something like IXP but for mpls vpns Let's say I'm an ISP that bought or merged with many small ISPs each with it's own AS# and would like to start offering mpls vpn services end to end If