On Sep 26, 2011, at 02:23 , Manish Karir wrote:
> We tried to outline some of the challenges of building such a system in our
> NANOG52 presentation:
>
> http://www.merit.edu/networkresearch/papers/pdf/2011/NANOG52_reputation-nanog.pdf
>
> In particular see slide 4. where we tried to lay down w
We tried to outline some of the challenges of building such a system in our
NANOG52 presentation:
http://www.merit.edu/networkresearch/papers/pdf/2011/NANOG52_reputation-nanog.pdf
In particular see slide 4. where we tried to lay down what we think the
requirements are for a socially acceptable
On 9/26/11 2:31 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
Sorry... what makes you think the problem with use of a
AS-reputation systems is
social and not technical?
IP packets are not stamped with the numbers of any of the AS they
transitted to reach your network.
The IP protocol simply does not expose AS number i
gt; Message: 9
>>>> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 18:37:17 +0300
>>>> From: Gadi Evron
>>>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>>>> Subject: "general badness" AS-based reputation system
>>>> Message-ID: <4e7f4aad.8020...@linuxbox.org>
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> >> On Sep 25, 2011, at 6:31 PM, nanog-requ...@nanog.org wrote:
> >>
> >>> Message: 9
> >>> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 18:37:17 +0300
> >>> From: Gadi Evron
> >>> To: nanog@nanog.org
> >>> Subject: "general badness&qu
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>>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>>> Subject: "general badness" AS-based reputation system
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>>> Having run one of these
On Sep 25, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Manish Karir wrote:
> On Sep 25, 2011, at 6:31 PM, nanog-requ...@nanog.org wrote:
>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 18:37:17 +0300
>> From: Gadi Evron
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: "general badness" AS-ba
On Sep 25, 2011, at 6:31 PM, nanog-requ...@nanog.org wrote:
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 18:37:17 +0300
> From: Gadi Evron
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: "general badness" AS-based reputation system
> Message-ID: <4e7f4aad.8020...@linuxbox.org>
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On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Gadi Evron wrote:
> In my opinion, third-party security based AS-reputation systems will
> eventually become de-facto border filtering systems for ISPs, but that day
> is still not here, as that is still socially unacceptable in our circles,
> and will remain so u
Having run one of these in the past, when take-downs of C&Cs was still
semi-useful, my ethos on this is problematic, however, I am as of yet
undecided as to this one. An AS-based reputation system for all sorts of
badness:
http://bgpranking.circl.lu/
In my opinion, third-party security based
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