Re: IPv6 uptake (was: The Reg does 240/4)

2024-02-18 Thread Matthew Walster via NANOG
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024, 05:29 Owen DeLong via NANOG, wrote: > Most firewalls are default deny. Routers are default allow unless you put > a filter on the interface. > This is not relevant though. NAT when doing port overloading, as is the case for most CPE, is not default-deny or default-allow. The

Re: SDN Internet Router (sir)

2023-01-07 Thread Matthew Walster via NANOG
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023, 20:52 Masataka Ohta, wrote: > Matthew Walster wrote: > > > No... It's action based. You can send it a different route, you can > > replicate it, you can drop it, you can mutate it... > > Replication is a poor alternative for multicast. > You conveniently ignore things like ID

Re: SDN Internet Router (sir)

2023-01-06 Thread Matthew Walster via NANOG
On Sat, 7 Jan 2023, 03:17 Masataka Ohta, wrote: > Matthew Walster wrote: > > > it's just one aspect of it. Some use it for > > classifying guest traffic etc. > > If special path is provided for guest or otherwise > prioritized traffic, that's QoS routing. > No... It's action based. You can send

Re: SDN Internet Router (sir)

2023-01-06 Thread Matthew Walster via NANOG
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023, 18:38 Mike Hammett, wrote: > I suspect it always will have value, whether it's peering routers, POP > routers, multi-homed customer routers, etc. > Indeed. It's not "clean" but it is an acceptable tradeoff if you know what you're doing, and how traffic sloshes around etc. I

Re: SDN Internet Router (sir)

2023-01-06 Thread Matthew Walster via NANOG
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023, 11:25 Forrest Christian (List Account), < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > In the end though, I do expect that the hassle of setting up and managing > a solution like this is likely to result in most people deciding that it > isn't worth the extra complexity just to avoid upgrad

Re: SDN Internet Router (sir)

2023-01-06 Thread Matthew Walster via NANOG
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023, 17:07 Masataka Ohta, wrote: > Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > Some of the reasoning behind 'i need/want to do SDN things' is 'low fib > > device' sort of reasonings. > > What? > > SDN is a poor alternative for those who can't construct a > network with fully automated QoS guar