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clueful colo hands in Cincinnati

2013-04-18 Thread Jo Rhett
$DAYJOB is in need of some clueful hands at a colocation in Cincinnati to regain IPMI access to some boxes there. Colo firm has no hands of any sort. Any clueful hands we can hire? Respond offline, please. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet

Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP

2012-12-24 Thread Jo Rhett
millions of data sources, and Zenoss couldn't dream of handling that, no matter how much hardware we threw at it. On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Mike Hale wrote: > Very small shop with millions of data sources? > > lol? > > > On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Jo Rhett w

Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP

2012-12-24 Thread Jo Rhett
n't actually use any of these, the internal deadlocks in the architecture make it impossible for it to scale. That Zenoss might make a better IP management tool than what it is purported and sold to do... amuses. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and

Re: Is a /48 still the smallest thing you can route independently?

2012-10-11 Thread Jo Rhett
e banging around in the emptiness as compared to our IPv4 allocations. :) -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: Is a /48 still the smallest thing you can route independently?

2012-10-11 Thread Jo Rhett
the entire Internet for each site, but totally unnecessary. > If you thus have 5 end-sites, you should have room for 5 /48s and thus a > /47 is what you can justify. Really? One bit can flip that many ways? ;-) I assume you mean /45, and apparently ARIN's recommended size is /44 anyw

Is a /48 still the smallest thing you can route independently?

2012-10-11 Thread Jo Rhett
likely to change in the immediate future, or do I need to ask for a /44? -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: guys != gender neutral

2012-09-27 Thread Jo Rhett
ppropriate words. One can use a variety of gender neutral words with some > simple re-writing. Remember, it's perfectly OK to employ singular "they" as > well. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they I completely disagree. Abusing plural words causes confusi

Re: guys != gender neutral

2012-09-27 Thread Jo Rhett
It's not suitable to refer to a single person of either gender. On Sep 27, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > When did "people" stop being an acceptable gender-neutral substitute for > {guys,gals}? > > Owen > > > Sent from my iPad > > On

guys != gender neutral

2012-09-27 Thread Jo Rhett
. If for no other reason than that the use of a single gender pronoun confuses less intelligent types to assume that women aren't important in technology (and god knows this completely baseless assumption is widely held) do your part to mix it up! -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: Anyone from Verizon/TATA on here? Possible Packet Loss

2012-09-26 Thread Jo Rhett
gt;> Agreed. Derek should read "A Practical Guide to (Correctly) >>> Troubleshooting with Traceroute": >>> http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog45/presentations/Sunday/RAS_traceroute_N45.pdf >>> >>> -- >>> Darius Jahandarie >> > > -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: the economies of scale of a Worldcon, and how to make this topic relevant to Nanog

2012-09-24 Thread Jo Rhett
working offline and syncing upward, since I was getting modem-like speed through the network there. I think I ended up using my phone more than their wifi :( -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: the economies of scale of a Worldcon, and how to make this topic relevant to Nanog

2012-09-21 Thread Jo Rhett
eir control. (they don't care, you're already there and can't go anywhere else) Sorry I'm being so negative on this topic. Got more than a few burnt fingers on this one :) > Can I get 12000 sessions on a single LTE tower? Yes. Can you get 12000 sessions through any single POE gateway? ;-) -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 nanog@nanog.org

2012-09-20 Thread Jo Rhett
heir cost, and with no benefit to themselves, so that I can use their IP space!" arguments. Ya huh. Right. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

the economies of scale of a Worldcon, and how to make this topic relevant to Nanog

2012-09-20 Thread Jo Rhett
own a network for each convention, put an LTE tower near the facility and sell to every group that uses the convention center. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 nanog@nanog.org

2012-09-19 Thread Jo Rhett
of other businesses/units/partners/etc. AND there is no requirement in any IP allocation document that you must use RFC1918 space. So acquiring unique space and using it internally has always been legal and permitted. Now let's avoid deliberately misunderstanding me again, alright? -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

They aren't on *MY* Internet, so I should get their space!

2012-09-19 Thread Jo Rhett
I'm renaming the thread to what the argument really is. On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Cutler James R wrote: > On Sep 19, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: >> >> And second, have you ever worked on a private intranet that wasn't connected >> to the internet t

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-19 Thread Jo Rhett
need to upgrade and will have the motivation. But don't expect people who don't need to upgrade, don't need to change, to undertake a massive infrastructure upgrade so that you can get more IPv4 addresses. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-18 Thread Jo Rhett
resses. You are totally missing the point of unique assignment. This is like claiming that we should reuse the phone numbers of people who block their number when they call you. Yes, really, it makes just as much sense. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-18 Thread Jo Rhett
every possible scenario and even if you could you'd need publicy routable space to NAT it to, or you run into the same collisions. I have worked at companies that have in excess of 4k private interconnections with their clients. Unique IP space is the only way to make this work. -- Jo Rhett

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-18 Thread Jo Rhett
t's not worth the effort, for something that will eventually become valueless. And actually, not reclaiming the space will make it valueless even faster as IPv6 migration takes off. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: Big Temporary Networks

2012-09-18 Thread Jo Rhett
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: >> On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:38 PM, William Herrin wrote: >>> IIRC when the Democatic National Convention was held in Denver in >>> 2008, they had to strike a special deal with the venue to bring in >>> union

Re: Big Temporary Networks

2012-09-18 Thread Jo Rhett
the guests. You can only do that when you have negotiating power, and then you get back to "there's usually only one possible choice and they know it" -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: Big Temporary Networks

2012-09-18 Thread Jo Rhett
hotels == negotiating ability. Please stop trying to be a smartass about something you could research, but haven't bothered to do so. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: Big Temporary Networks

2012-09-18 Thread Jo Rhett
ooms has been hard enough to break many bids. It is currently impossible in San Francisco due to hotel contracts, and part of why Worldcon will never return to San Francisco unless very unlikely changes happen. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: Big Temporary Networks

2012-09-18 Thread Jo Rhett
about the network access at the location. And we vote based on what we can find out. However, the number of us who vote that way are fairly small, as most attendees have other priorities like inexpensive food options, cheaper hotel options, etc. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: Big Temporary Networks

2012-09-18 Thread Jo Rhett
ears before hotels starting seeing Internet as a profit vector. Unfortunately, the size requirements of things the size of Worldcon limit the choices enough that this simply can't be a bargaining point. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: Big Temporary Networks

2012-09-18 Thread Jo Rhett
the lack of inexpensive food options. If for some reason Hellsinki's bid falls apart, Spokane has better facilities and good LTE network support. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: EBAY and AMAZON

2012-06-11 Thread Jo Rhett
2 > FAX +1 717.506.4358 > Email ralph.bra...@pateam.com > 5095 Ritter Rd > Mechanicsburg PA 17055 > > -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: Force10 E Series at the edge?

2012-05-07 Thread Jo Rhett
les if a checkbox was marked. The boxes handled 1000x ports with ~6 filters per port no problem, but yeah, real uRPF would be nice. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet projects.

Re: Force10 E Series at the edge?

2012-03-27 Thread Jo Rhett
your computer. Progressive Solutions is not liable for any > errors or omissions in the content or transmission of this email. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: bgp question

2012-01-18 Thread Jo Rhett
ions? Yes, absolutely. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

nanog@nanog.org

2011-01-05 Thread Jo Rhett
On Nov 25, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > Have you tried 611 (from an AT&T land-line phone)? Many people don't have one. I haven't had one for over 12 years now, nor have any of my employers for the last 8 years. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by

Re: Alcatel-Lucent

2010-03-06 Thread Jo Rhett
As it turns out the developers of the software already have fixes for all the reported problems, have every intention and working patches to support modern Solaris releases, etc. So my experience so far has been good product, good company, needs a real attitude adjustment in the support

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-22 Thread Jo Rhett
od to see them finally taking action. I see what you are saying, but this isn't the case of "maybe kindof bad" -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Savvis quality?

2009-06-02 Thread Jo Rhett
traw. In one of the marathon phone calls with the NOC staff about this, a NOC manager frankly told me that Savvis had been stripped and reamed, and they were just trying to stay alive long enough to sell the low- cost carcass to another provider. Yeah, I think that pretty much sums it up.

who provides bandwidth to Telehouse?

2009-05-04 Thread Jo Rhett
tlook 11 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Message-ID: Reply-To: Organization: TELEHOUSE America Jo, You missed the Telehouse WebEx Friday on Security Threats from Virtualization. But good news - we can forward you a copy of the presentation, if you would like to review the sec

Question. Cisco PIX/ASA

2009-04-29 Thread Jo¢
Greetings all I have a customer running with a Cisco 5500 series firewall. What were seeing (as a problem) is that there is a bit being flipped by the firewall in the packet header. The bit in question is the Congession Window Reduced or CWR bit. Under heavy load the target server is getting this

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-23 Thread Jo Rhett
ooted and capable of dealing with all parts of the multi-mount web platform required. We've never looked back. Ever once in a while I find someone who's offering a file I want only via FTP, and I chide them and they fix it ;-) -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by n

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-23 Thread Jo Rhett
. And yes, that was FreeBSD with the old version openssl library that shipped with 6.3. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-23 Thread Jo Rhett
y. But these people just can't pull it off. Likewise, every company with whom I've had to debate the topic has failed within 18 months, so the problem pervades the organization ;-) -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-23 Thread Jo Rhett
to a particularly stupid brick wall. And not very effective either, because anything they do to solve the problem another way will likely create the valid need for an external IP. These days, virtual hosting is all virtual machines, so the IP justification is just there anyway. -- Jo Rhet

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-21 Thread Jo Rhett
yeah, it's easy to know they are lying ;-) It is a problem because some ISPs don't care and just give away IPs, so customers get annoyed with us when I ask for proper justification. Oh well ;-) -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-21 Thread Jo Rhett
On Apr 21, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Ken A wrote: Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Jo Rhett said: Since virtual web hosting has no technical justification for IP space, I refuse it. SSL and FTP are techincal justifications for an IP per site. Right. Also, monthly bandwidth monitoring

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-21 Thread Jo Rhett
On Apr 21, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Jo Rhett said: Since virtual web hosting has no technical justification for IP space, I refuse it. SSL and FTP are techincal justifications for an IP per site. Absolutely. But SEO on pure virtual sites is not ;-) -- Jo

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests [re "impacting revenue"]

2009-04-21 Thread Jo Rhett
. I spend longer on hold any time I deal with any other vendor. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-21 Thread Jo Rhett
ning off on it will also be valid. Depends on how you read the policy. I prefer my reading to yours ;-) That said, if someone who likes writing these things will help me, I'll gladly create and advance a policy demanding a real, provable need for an IP beyond one per physical host. --

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-21 Thread Jo Rhett
otary signs only that the person in front of them has been checked to be who they say they are. That's authentication. A Notary cannot attest that what is on the document is valid. A CxO signing that the request is valid is Authorization to speak for the company. Different spectrum

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests [re "impacting revenue"]

2009-04-21 Thread Jo Rhett
e can hijack the process and subjugate the community to our will? Roger -- although you'll find I'm no fan of Legacy holders and their "rights", I can't say that I follow your logic on having ARIN just "do something" against the will of the community.

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-20 Thread Jo Rhett
done it 10 years ago, but it's not too late to start. Before late than never. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

RE: Michael Mooney releases another worm: Law Enforcement /Intelligence Agency's do nothing

2009-04-18 Thread Jo¢
lol, in a virtual world its always nice to have the delete key (: > -Original Message- > From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:10 AM > To: Jo¢ > Cc: 'andrew.wallace'; 'n3td3v'; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Mic

RE: Michael Mooney releases another worm: Law Enforcement /Intelligence Agency's do nothing

2009-04-17 Thread Jo¢
Pardon the ignorance I have to take this a step back. Your neighbor leaves their window open with a fresh bowl of fish near the window. A bunch of cats show up and start trying to get in, to no avail do they get in. At the first chance you discuss this with your neighbor, and warn them of this si

RE: Fiber cut in SF area

2009-04-10 Thread Jo¢
I'm confussed, but please pardon the ignorance. All the data centers we have are at minimum keys to access data areas. Not that every area of fiber should have such, but at least should they? Manhole covers "can" be keyed. For those of you arguing that this is not enough, I would say at least it

Re: options for full routing table in 1 year?

2009-04-09 Thread Jo Rhett
have linecard DFCs they would need to be XLs also. The DFCs are what make hardware forwarding possible, yeah? Upgrading the DFC requires a line-card swap, or just a DFC daughter-card? -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

options for full routing table in 1 year?

2009-04-08 Thread Jo Rhett
laced? (note that this disagrees with my understanding of how their FIB/CEF works so I'm curious about this) Force10 you replace every single line card, since the entire chassis is limited to the smallest CAM size available. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanth

RE: Nipper and Cisco configuration results

2009-04-02 Thread Jo¢
__ From: Subba Rao [mailto:castellan2004-...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:43 PM To: nanog@nanog.org; Jo¢ Subject: RE: Nipper and Cisco configuration results Joe, Thank you for replying. I am asking about th

RE: Nipper and Cisco configuration results

2009-04-02 Thread Jo¢
ou clarify your problem a bit? -Joe From: Subba Rao [mailto:castellan2004-...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 8:25 PM To: nanog@nanog.org; Jo¢ Subject: RE: Nipper and Cisco configuration results

RE: Nipper and Cisco configuration results

2009-04-02 Thread Jo¢
What IOS version are you using? I don't see that behavior (rlogin/rsh) by default, but I'm a few revisions behind on the latest. @ 12.2 I do see from the router: RCMD-4-RSHPORTATTEMPT Attempted to connect to RSHELL from 192.168.1.52 from nmaps, but theres no response to the SYN packet of the attem

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-03-24 Thread Jo Rhett
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Jo Rhett wrote: The problem is... you aren't doing the work. You aren't stopping the offenders. That's the goal. Automation should be a tool to help you do the job better, not avoid doing the job at all. On Mar 24, 2009, at

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-03-24 Thread Jo Rhett
n should be a tool to help you do the job better, not avoid doing the job at all. -- Jo Rhett an abuse response administrator who reads *every* report sent to us, and takes action on *every* one of them.

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-03-24 Thread Jo Rhett
bot which sends false spam reports, nothing more and nothing less. Any autobot which sends false spam reports needs to be shut down. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Jo Rhett
artment. This isn't spam. Reading through ~3k of these not-spams every day doesn't help us solve any actual abuse problems. Feedback loops will not be useful until the providers of the feedback loops accept reports about use of the spam reporting tools, and are willing to

a vernier of civilization...

2008-09-24 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 24, 2008, at 7:24 PM, Randy Bush wrote: this way lies lynch mobs shall we at least apply a vernier of civilization? Randy, I would agree if anything less had ever been effective. If you have a better idea, please explain to the rest of us. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant

Re: Atrivo/Intercage

2008-09-23 Thread Jo Rhett
ies. And I am simply an employee, neither an executive nor an owner, so this took a bit of doing. But it has given me great pleasure the few times that we made a mistake with a customer, and I got to tell the affected parties that the abuser is now homeless ;-) -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance :

Re: Atrivo/Intercage

2008-09-23 Thread Jo Rhett
your abuse complaints, you shut down your spammers. Period, end of subject. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Procedure to Change Nameservers

2008-09-18 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 16, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Crist Clark wrote: I want to change the nameservers for a bunch of domains Then ask the question on a list related to DNS. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Cisco uRPF failures

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: On (2008-09-11 00:50 -0700), Jo Rhett wrote: As someone who does a lot of work talking to NOCs trying to chase down attack sources, I can honestly tell you that I haven't talked to a single NOC in the last 16 months who had BCP38 on every

Re: an effect of ignoring BCP38

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
ose. The MIT Spoofer project seems to indicate that closer to 50% *of the edge* is doing sane filtering. And that's where you need to do it - *edge* not *core*. I've said much the same myself. With the caveot that if you aren't doing it at the edge, you need to b

Re: an effect of ignoring BCP38

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
de uRPF on your edges you aren't implementing BCP38 now are you? I don't care how it is deployed. That's your job ;-) -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: an effect of ignoring BCP38

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
y problematic on the busiest peering ports. Loose mode works perfectly fine with zero drops (even on Cisco) on anything smaller than a full feed (ie, that ISP client of yours you do BGP with) -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: BCP38 dismissal

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
CP38 deployment. You want to stop being rude, and start making positive assertations about things you know? I'd love to be wrong, but I've got a whole lot of experience on this topic. If you know better, educate the rest of us. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings

Re: Cisco uRPF failures

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
he marketplace, and I've heard that name more than 70% of the time. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: BCP38 dismissal

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
eed to do BCP38" because BCP38 doesn't cause problems for them, I consider them a jerk. And yeah, I feel pretty confident looking down my nose at someone like that. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Cisco uRPF failures

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Anton Kapela wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's the surprising thing -- no scenario. Very basic configuration. Enabling uRPF and then hitting it with a few gig of non-routable packets consistently cau

Re: Force10 Gear - Opinions

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 5, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Paul Wall wrote: Jo Rhett wrote: Note the "not random" comment. People love to use the random feature of ixia/etc but it rarely displays actual performance in a production network. Once upon a time, vendors released products which relied on CPU-b

Re: BCP38 dismissal

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
s since I've even thought much about it. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: an effect of ignoring BCP38

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
have a long ways to start. Finishing isn't even within the horizon yet. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Teleglobe appears to be spam-source zombie network?

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
you should get around to within a few hours, nevermind a few months since the changes? I mean seriously. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Teleglobe appears to be spam-source zombie network?

2008-09-11 Thread Jo Rhett
o the organization. It will show up on *all* allocations. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Teleglobe appears to be spam-source zombie network?

2008-09-10 Thread Jo Rhett
addresses all bounce 3. All listed phone numbers on any netblocks we can find are invalid Any chance that RIPE is more strigent than ARIN and would pull their netblocks until they fix this stuff? -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: BCP38 dismissal

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
was getting confused quite a bit. So, we all support BCP38 and nothing really changed from the last time we all had this discussion about why most of us don't use it. On that you'll have to speak for yourself. We have it on every customer port ;-) -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance :

Re: BCP38 dismissal

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Gadi Evron wrote: Seriously though, everyone should take care of their own end first. The problem is Jo doesn't seem to be in the loopon attacks from recent years, but I am unsure he would change his mind if he was/ Nice going, Gadi -- let's insult s

Re: BCP38 dismissal

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
outes from people like you I'd be a lot happier. (and we'd all be a lot safer) -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: BCP38 dismissal

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 4, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Paul Wall wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sorry, but nonsense statements such as these burn the blood. Sure, yes, protecting yourself is so much more important than protecting anyone else. Anyone e

Re: Force10 Gear - Opinions

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
On Sep 4, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Paul Wall wrote: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You added a third SFM3 which has no place to go in this chassis. No, I did not. I did, however, list it as a point of reference for a-la-carte analysis. So $52,500

Re: BCP38 dismissal

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
2008, at 10:05 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Jo Rhett wrote: Count you which way? You seem to agree with me. Everyone should be doing both, not discounting BCP38 because they aren't seeing an attack right now. No one sees attacks that BCP38 would sto

Re: Force10 Gear - Opinions

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
is responsive to operator control even when full line rate is directed at switch itself. Note the "not random" comment. People love to use the random feature of ixia/etc but it rarely displays actual performance in a production network. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endin

Re: BCP38 dismissal

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
think is important at one instance in time... attackers change and adapt and multimodal defense is simply good policy. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sep 4, 2008, at 7:24 AM, James Jun wrote: Indeed... In today's internet, protecting your own

BCP38 dismissal

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
sorry, but nonsense statements such as these burn the blood. Sure, yes, protecting yourself is so much more important than protecting anyone else. Anyone else want to stand up and join the "I am an asshole" club? -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, ope

uRPF

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
g location? -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Force10 Gear - Opinions

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
at 60% discount, you're pitting new against used for similar prices. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Force10 Gear - Opinions

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
eries. You and I (and any real network operator) must have different definitions of "forward at line rate". -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Cisco uRPF failures

2008-09-04 Thread Jo Rhett
x27;t have much details. I kept thinking that this was a serious problem that Cisco would address quickly, but that turns out not to be the case. To this day I've never found a network operator using uRPF on Cisco gear. (note: network operator. it's probably fine for several-hundr

Re: Force10 Gear - Opinions

2008-09-03 Thread Jo Rhett
cp-policer works quite well on pfc3 based 6500's. This is ofcourse a very important feature (more important than uRPF in today's internet IMO) that appears to be missing in f10 gear which is what Paul was saying earlier. Based on what? Other than some idea of "um, we c

Re: Force10 Gear - Opinions

2008-09-03 Thread Jo Rhett
the E or C series, and lacks many features. The old HP-CLI they used is gone, it's a full FTOS now. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Force10 Gear - Opinions

2008-09-03 Thread Jo Rhett
? The dual-cam cards have indecent amounts of storage. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Force10 Gear - Opinions

2008-09-03 Thread Jo Rhett
pop. :) Sorry, I thought you were serious. I didn't realize you were joking. Carry on. *plonk* -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Force10 Gear - Opinions

2008-09-03 Thread Jo Rhett
ntrol plane filtering/policing. Ah, because Cisco does either of these in hardware? Yes, they do, on the s720-3B and better. No, they don't. There are *no* *zero* providers doing line-speed uRPF on Cisco for a reason. Stop reading, start testing. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

Re: Force10 Gear - Opinions

2008-09-03 Thread Jo Rhett
fails you lose the entire network". -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness

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