; capabilities as it does with v4.
This is surprising to me, can you comment on why DHCPv6 TA is being
used in this scenario?
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On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 01:02:49PM -0700, David W. Hankins wrote:
> will ultimately be cleaned. If the destination is reused later,
>
Ah, I forgot to complete this thought in editing.
If packets are sent to the destination later (after a cache entry is
expired) the host obviously start
hat your conclusion is false, but
rather that it seems to me there are more enumerations in the set.
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relatively short period of time (such as devices that have a large
number of active sessions with hosts that its routers redirect; web
servers, smtp systems...).
[1] Li, Q., Jinmei, T., Shima, K., "IPv6 Core Protocols
Implementation", October 2006.
ISBN 13: 978-0-12-447751-
, failover is a tool we have whereas DHCP clustering
software is so far only a tool we want to create.
* Some objects in the future-mirror may be further away than they
appear.
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ll free pool; it can't
allocate the peer's leases.
So it doesn't replace entering partner-down for long-term outages.
These features were both provided in 4.2.0 (a1 and a2 respectively
as memory serves), currently an alpha which I hope to move to its
first beta soon.
* I'
magnitude, but it's interesting that the software works
differently.
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gue AP to insert themselves in the middle.
Sometimes in focusing on packet exchanges, we miss the forest for the
trees.
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prefix for the interface.
Typically on Linux;
ip=/sbin/ip
${ip} -f inet6 addr add ${new_ip6_address}/${new_ip6_prefixlen} \
dev ${interface} scope global
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ng will people accept that a secured DHCPv6 session must rely,
in order to function to expectations, upon the unsecurable RA and/or
questionably secure SEND?
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bootstrap.
Maybe it's possible for some proprietary printer or fileshare network
stuff to continue working on LL's (or, ironically, routing protocols
or DHCPv6 itself), but anywhere else ("mail.example.com",
"contacts.example.com"), anywhere real, and the network
Marxist-turned-Communist philosophy of
design. All hosts are equal, everyone gets the same thing. From each
according to their ability, to each according to their need. You want
to be a router? Go ahead! Send an RA. The hosts are all allowed to
freely roam and operate within their own lim
say the screen doors were on the
plans when I got there. I gather the planners believed they would
facillitate use of the ark by hybrid human-acquatic lifeforms that did
not exist at the time, nor do they exist today, but were hoped to
exist because mermaids and mermen are, like, totally hot.
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aries drawn in broadcast domains are
administrative in nature and not technical (but still, all automated).
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> What if the ISP only gave a /60?
Then someone gets a STATUS_NoAddrsAvail.
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ATT;
http://cbs5.com/local/phone.internet.outage.2.980578.html
Rather widespread "general telco" outage, the county has deployed
extra patrol units in the south bay to compensate for not being able
to call 911.
Third video link in shows repairs underway.
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ey use so many so that, when the good guys
bust in the door and shut down the C&C domain/hosting, they can just
open up shop somewhere else like nothing happened.
Not entirely unlike terrorist cells.
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still heeds some of its
vague handwaving. In DHCPv6, the client submits to the network's
will, but still has some of its own vague handwaving choices.
It is Marxism (turned Socialism) vs Fascism at its root.
I hope I have not spent my year's worth of NANOG tolerance for DHCP
related d
ion management and control.
Or put another way, it fulfills a larger set of requirements, while
still keeping the rest as a subset of its offering.
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urviving router if its default
router has failed (and thus will not have to wait for rebinding).
This has further config implications as the server(s) are no
longer able to detect the difference in a client's renewal or
rebinding, but it can be an effective optimization
contrived false factoid that supports
your a-priori conclusions. My analysis of your further arguments is
that you have selected a proper subset of actual Internet operational
needs in order to further justify these same conclusions.
I will leave it at that. :)
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bout
pervasive client support for DHCPv6 in jubliant encouragements of
DHCPv6 operational experiments and deployment.
>> [...] Joe is not entirely wrong.
>
> Hooray! :-)
I am seriously considering admitting I know you. :)
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IPv6 addresses for configuration state now and again, so Joe is not
entirely wrong.
> I can recall many posts over the years from the IPng WG telling people they
> didn't need DHCP.
There is no need to recall! Subscribe to any IETF mailing list, and
be assured you will still
HCPv4 and DHCPv6 are both
supersets of network management needs. RA is a vast subset. Herein
lies the rub; you have to implement both anyway because a client can
not predict what network(s) it is going to be used in.
Nobody wins.
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dialogue out with the bathwater, and we're having it all over again.
Fun!
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ping a new up-to-date list of IP addresses to filter,
as it expands and shrinks, you can greatly reduce your own footprint
in these attacks with a quick upgrade.
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to do or keep the job they were given, and desired to
do it well.
That's really what you should be looking for, locality is irrelevant.
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ild bridges...
The only thing to iron out is: Who gets to be (golden) parachute
lemmings?
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#x27;s
coming. I'm still recommending a variety of caution in that first
deployment on production systems.
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 08:10:26AM +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, David W. Hankins wrote:
>> It is almost lunacy to deploy IPv6 in a customer-facing sense (note
>> for example Google's choice to put its on a separate FQDN). At
>
> Could yo
you start telling customers these IPv6 address thingies are
useful.
IPv6: It's kind of like storing dry food in preparation for the
apocalypse.
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ath... Problem is I think even then
> the simple devices won't bother to support it.
Or if they do, they'll do it wrong. They can't even get ifDescr
right.
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an think of better, we'll have to call it "Intercaging".
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ients send inconsistent identifiers, and even with DUID-based
id's, I think this is not going to change). This is in addition to
today, where such clients consume multiple IPv4 addresses. Insult
to injury.
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either its database or Dynamic DNS (quite a
lot of DHCPv6 server software supports Dynamic DNS). But you still
wont' have any DHCPv6 clients outside of Vista.
This is where the chicken meets the egg on our faces.
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the
future, I think that isn't precisely possible without welcoming the
related philosophical (not religious) debates.
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registry.
If DLV registries became 'de rigeur', it would effectively halve the
root and by extension the GTLDs' relevance. I do not believe they
will permit this to come to pass. Provided they did, we would win
anyway, as signing zones itself would have become the norm.
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g, hope to avoid "throwing spaghetti at the wall"), but if
you'd rather base your decisions on what you like (or not), you have
every right to do so.
In my opinion there are a bulk of technical merits that place DHCPv6
ahead of RTadv. I don't like either protocol, but they'
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