Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Joly MacFie
> How else would you distribute cable and sat tv? NDI or similar On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 1:15 PM Tom Deligiannis wrote: > How else would you distribute cable and sat tv? I would never buy a home > or build a home if there weren't hard wired services to the home. The last > thing I want to do is

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Mark Tinka
On 12/4/24 20:15, Tom Deligiannis wrote: How else would you distribute cable and sat tv? I would never buy a home or build a home if there weren't hard wired services to the home. The last thing I want to do is run all media streaming and internet surfing through a wireless 5g connection.

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Justin Streiner
The coax was part of the electrician's standard build package, so it was no added cost for us to leave it in their spec. While we're not using the coax today, it's handy to have if needed. I terminated and tested the coax while I was doing the Cat7 and it didn't take me much extra time. Thank yo

Re: WSJ: Dozens of Countries Hit in Chinese Telecom Hacking Campaign, Top U.S. Official Says

2024-12-04 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
Failing to find a list of providers that were hit. Anyone know more ? I don't see them mentioned. Verizon & AT&T I know of. -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > On Dec 4, 2024, at 14:59, Sean Don

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 12/4/24 13:49, j...@joelesler.net wrote: On Dec 4, 2024, at 16:12, Jerry Cloe wrote: Even with broadcast, the need for coax (vs network) is going away. People that use broadcast still want "cable type" services, mainly dvr and channel guides. With so many options out there, TiVo, HDHomeRun

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread joel
Coaxial cable runs from the street to my house at my most recent purchase. All the “cable boxes” in the house are wireless. They are essentially whitelisted Android TV boxes. — Joel Esler Vice President, Security ThreatSTOP > On Dec 4, 2024, at 16:12, Jerry Cloe wrote: > > Even with broadcas

RE: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Jerry Cloe
Even with broadcast, the need for coax (vs network) is going away. People that use broadcast still want "cable type" services, mainly dvr and channel guides. With so many options out there, TiVo, HDHomeRun, MythTV, many others, all of them only need coax to the unit, then distribute via IP from

RE: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Colin Stanners (lists)
For residential builds' TV, in many regards there is still nothing that has all of coax's advantages. Very cheap to buy cable Cable can survive a good bit of mishandling, pulling on ends, being stepped on etc. Cheap / simple to install and repair (outside of edge cases) Massive base of existing

Re: WSJ: Dozens of Countries Hit in Chinese Telecom Hacking Campaign, Top U.S. Official Says

2024-12-04 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 12:57 PM Sean Donelan wrote: > “We believe that the voluntary approach has proved inadequate for the most > critical companies that underpin our critical infrastructure. So we want > to complement CISA’s efforts with regulatory efforts." We're still talking about the hack w

WSJ: Dozens of Countries Hit in Chinese Telecom Hacking Campaign, Top U.S. Official Says

2024-12-04 Thread Sean Donelan
At least eight U.S. telecommunications firms were compromised in the attack, a senior White House official said https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/dozens-of-countries-hit-in-chinese-telecom-hacking-campaign-top-u-s-official-says-2a3a5cca Chinese government officials have denied r

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 11:41 AM Tim Burke wrote: > Cable companies are still doing coax for new neighborhoods and even > overbuilds in 2024, for some reason. Their staff knows how to run coax, how to troubleshoot coax and how to repair coax. To do something else, they have to hire and/or train s

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Daniel Golding
Its so cheap, its an opportunity cost thing. On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 3:02 PM Nathan Angelacos wrote: > On Wed, 2024-12-04 at 09:12 -0500, Joly MacFie wrote: > > Excuse my ignorance, but why, in this day and age, coax? > > Joly > > I can't speak for the original poster. But SDI over coax comes to

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Tim Burke
Cable companies are still doing coax for new neighborhoods and even overbuilds in 2024, for some reason. One of the major cable operators just got done tearing up my neighborhood north of Houston (that already had coax from another major operator in addition to XGS-PON) to pull in coax with bla

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 12/4/24 10:54, Josh Baird wrote: You could use modern media distribution systems over IP or HDBase-T. But yeah, I would still run coax to each TV location -- even if you don't intend on using it.  You _may_ find a use for it at some point, and the next person who lives in the home may want

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Josh Baird
You could use modern media distribution systems over IP or HDBase-T. But yeah, I would still run coax to each TV location -- even if you don't intend on using it. You _may_ find a use for it at some point, and the next person who lives in the home may want it. On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 1:17 PM Tom

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Tom Deligiannis
How else would you distribute cable and sat tv? I would never buy a home or build a home if there weren't hard wired services to the home. The last thing I want to do is run all media streaming and internet surfing through a wireless 5g connection. On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 8:13 AM Joly MacFie wrote

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Nathan Angelacos
On Wed, 2024-12-04 at 09:12 -0500, Joly MacFie wrote: > Excuse my ignorance, but why, in this day and age, coax? > > Joly > I can't speak for the original poster.  But SDI over coax comes to mind.   

OARC 44 Call for Contribution deadline extension - Dec 9, 2024

2024-12-04 Thread Cathy Almond
The deadline for OARC 44 abstract submission is extended to December 9, 2024, at 23:59 UTC. Thanks to those who already submitted, but we're still looking for more contributions. If you have something interesting to present and missed the chance last week, then this is your opportunity to stil

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Joly MacFie
Excuse my ignorance, but why, in this day and age, coax? Joly On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 7:14 AM Justin Streiner wrote: > When we built our new house 3 years ago, I had the electrician pull Cat7 > and coax to most of the rooms in the house, since it would be way easier to > do it before the drywall

Re: New home builders without wires

2024-12-04 Thread Justin Streiner
When we built our new house 3 years ago, I had the electrician pull Cat7 and coax to most of the rooms in the house, since it would be way easier to do it before the drywall went up. They initially resisted because they had never worked with Cat7 before. I struck a deal with them where I bought t

Survey on the deployment and usage of Looking Glass (LG)

2024-12-04 Thread Lancheng via NANOG
Dear all, We are a research team from Tsinghua University and ZGC Lab. We are conducting a survey on the current deployment and usage of Looking Glass (LG) servers. Our research aims to improve the user experience as well as prevent abuse of LG. If you manage a LG server in your network a