Re: Small Internet border router options?

2024-05-14 Thread Richard Holbo
+1 on the Ubiquiti Infinity.. I've used a number of them in various roles.. Linux based and have had 1 hardware failure after a couple years. Try to keep bridging to a minimum as it'll eat the processor, but for routed traffic, no issues. /rh On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 11:56 AM Tom Samplonius wrot

RE: Q: is RFC3531 still applicable?

2024-05-14 Thread Adam Thompson
I may have mis-read it (I admit I didn’t read it all that carefully) but I think RFC3531 is talking about the strategy for assigning /64s out of a larger pool (a /56, say). -Adam Adam Thompson Consultant, Infrastructure Services MERLIN 100 - 135 Innovation Drive Winnipeg, MB R3T 6A8 (204) 977-68

Re: Q: is RFC3531 still applicable?

2024-05-14 Thread Mel Beckman
I never could understand the motivation behind RFC3531. Just assign /64s. A single /64 subnet has 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 host addresses. It is enough. Period. -mel On May 14, 2024, at 12:54 PM, Adam Thompson wrote:  Not an IPv6 newbie by any stretch, but we still aren’t doing it “at

Q: is RFC3531 still applicable?

2024-05-14 Thread Adam Thompson
Not an IPv6 newbie by any stretch, but we still aren't doing it "at scale" and some of you are, so... For a very small & dense (on 128-bit scales, anyway) network, is RFC3531 still the last word in IPv6 allocation strategies? Right now, we're just approaching it as "pick the next /64 in the ran

NANOG 91: Keynote & Conference Kit Announcement 📢 + More

2024-05-14 Thread Nanog News
*Announcing NANOG 91 Keynote! * *Juniper Networks' Kireeti Kompella Will Present "Network Digital Twin"* *SVP and Chief Engineer for the AWAN BU in Juniper Networks, Kompella, will discuss "digital twins" and how they are used in many contexts.* As networks ramp up on automation, this is a logica

Re: On consistency and 192.0.0.0/24

2024-05-14 Thread Warren Kumari
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 1:24 PM, Tom Beecher wrote: > That means that some IP addresses in the block 192.0.0.0/24 may be >> routable. >> > It feels like people are talking past each other when they are saying "routable" — these are fairly clearly not routable on the Global Internet, but addresse

Re: On consistency and 192.0.0.0/24

2024-05-14 Thread borg
From what I looked at IANA Special Registry, this whole range looks like some service IPs. I mean, they provide specific service within AS. From me then, it looks like bogon. You should not receive routing for those addresses from other AS. (PNI is out of scope here). -- Original message

Re: On consistency and 192.0.0.0/24

2024-05-14 Thread Tom Beecher
> > That means that some IP addresses in the block 192.0.0.0/24 may be > routable. > > So, I would not make this a bogon. > This ignores note 2 on the IANA definitions page, next to 192.0.0.0/24 : > [2] > > Not useable unless by virtue of a more specific reservation. > > Which then lists the mor

Re: On consistency and 192.0.0.0/24

2024-05-14 Thread Jakob Heitz (jheitz) via NANOG
RFC 5736 was obsoleted by RFC 6890. It says in part: 2.2.1. Information Requirements The IPv4 and IPv6 Special-Purpose Address Registries maintain the following information regarding each entry: … o Forwardable - A boolean value indicating whether a router may forward an IP datag

Re: On consistency and 192.0.0.0/24

2024-05-14 Thread borg
No, I am not confusing those two. Actually, Im using 192.0.2.0 as well here, for server's internal SNAT. Okey, I checked that registry and there is nothing I care about. It seems the choice to using 192.0.0.0/24 internally at desktop was smart enough ;) Thx for info. -- Original message

Re: Small Internet border router options?

2024-05-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
Used/Refurbished Cisco ASR 900 or 1000 family, perhaps ? Rubens On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 3:53 PM Tom Samplonius wrote: > > > What are using for small campus border routers? So four to eight 10G ports > with a FIB for full scale L3? > > > Tom > >

Re: On consistency and 192.0.0.0/24

2024-05-14 Thread borg
[10] 192.0.0.0/24 reserved for IANA IPv4 Special Purpose Address Registry [RFC5736]. Complete registration details for 192.0.0.0/24 are found in [IANA registry iana-ipv4-special-registry]. Was RFC5736 obsoleted? I think not, so I would treat it as bogon. Its a nice tiny subnet for special purpose

Re: Small Internet border router options?

2024-05-14 Thread Christopher Hawker
+1 on the CCR2216 routers, rock-solid stuff... Regards, Christopher Hawker From: NANOG on behalf of Tony Wicks Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 5:08 AM To: 'Tom Samplonius' Cc: 'NANOG' Subject: RE: Small Internet border router options? Juniper MX204, Nokia SR1/SR1