Re: Routed optical networks

2023-05-08 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG
> > The optical network is made up of the photonic portion and then the > transponder/muxponder portion. > Thank you for that direct definition. I'm serious (not sarcastic). One thing I've written about in papers is the nomenclature problem, and I'm in good company. Bill Norton had written explici

Re: Routed optical networks

2023-05-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/8/23 21:53, Phil Bedard wrote: I guess let’s not confuse two things.  The optical network is made up of the photonic portion and then the transponder/muxponder portion.   A single term like “DWDM” can be confusing since it can refer to both. Indeed. I am short-handing to mean DWDM

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/9/23 00:03, Jeff Tantsura wrote: Saying that IS-IS in FRR is broken is incorrect, that it is in many ways weird - no offense to folks who coded it :) (especially if you have worked with commercial code bases), that it doesn’t scale/naive, missing features - for sure. FRR runs today s

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/8/23 22:52, William Herrin wrote: Hi Mark, I'm not sure I'd call bugs that don't appear when running FRR on Linux (only FreeBSD), "not yet ready for business." Or did I misunderstand your bug report? Don't get me wrong: if you tell me it's not right until it works without Linux-centric

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-08 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Saying that IS-IS in FRR is broken is incorrect, that it is in many ways weird - no offense to folks who coded it :) (especially if you have worked with commercial code bases), that it doesn’t scale/naive, missing features - for sure. FRR runs today some of the biggest DCs in the world and is

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-08 Thread Jeff Tantsura
All fixed (thanks Donald) CVE-2022-40302 and CVE-2022-40318: https://github.com/FRRouting/frr/pull/12043 CVE-2022-43681: https://github.com/FRRouting/frr/pull/12247 Cheers, Jeff > On May 3, 2023, at 2:52 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > On 02/05/2023 17:56, Warren Kumari wrote: > > For those th

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-08 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 9:04 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > IS-IS in Quagga and FRR are not yet ready for business, is what I would > caution. Hi Mark, I'm not sure I'd call bugs that don't appear when running FRR on Linux (only FreeBSD), "not yet ready for business." Or did I misunderstand your bug repo

Re: Routed optical networks

2023-05-08 Thread Phil Bedard
I guess let’s not confuse two things. The optical network is made up of the photonic portion and then the transponder/muxponder portion. A single term like “DWDM” can be confusing since it can refer to both. It will take a long time (maybe never) to remove the photonic switching part of the

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-08 Thread Bryan Holloway
On 5/8/23 18:45, Mark Tinka wrote: On 5/8/23 15:44, Bryan Holloway wrote: You said, "IS-IS in Quagga and FRR are not yet ready for business, ..." Not ready for business in what way? Performance? Cross-vendor compatibility? Features? Or did I misunderstand your statement? Broken when t

Spoofer Report for NANOG for Apr 2023

2023-05-08 Thread CAIDA Spoofer Project
In response to feedback from operational security communities, CAIDA's source address validation measurement project (https://spoofer.caida.org) is automatically generating monthly reports of ASes originating prefixes in BGP for systems from which we received packets with a spoofed source address.

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/8/23 18:45, Mark Tinka wrote: Broken when talking to Cisco IOS XE. Catalogued here: https://lists.frrouting.org/pipermail/frog/2023-March/001265.html I have no doubt FRR can talk IS-IS to other instances of FRR, but that is not a realistic scenario in a large scale network with multip

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-08 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/8/23 15:44, Bryan Holloway wrote: You said, "IS-IS in Quagga and FRR are not yet ready for business, ..." Not ready for business in what way? Performance? Cross-vendor compatibility? Features? Or did I misunderstand your statement? Broken when talking to Cisco IOS XE. Catalogued he

Re: Best Linux (or BSD) hosted BGP?

2023-05-08 Thread Bryan Holloway
On 5/8/23 07:03, Mark Tinka wrote: On 5/8/23 00:22, Bryan Holloway wrote: Curious to hear more specifics about your IS-IS assertion. We've been running it on FRR for some time without incident, but I'll concede that we don't do very much with it other than saying, "hey -- we're here; oh,