On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 12:45 PM William Herrin wrote:
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> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 9:09 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:55 AM William Herrin wrote:
> > > No, the best option for me right now is that I just don't participate
> > > in RPKI and the system has one less participa
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 9:09 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:55 AM William Herrin wrote:
> > No, the best option for me right now is that I just don't participate
> > in RPKI and the system has one less participant. And that's a shame.
>
> That's only true in the current enviro
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:55 AM William Herrin wrote:
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> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:51 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 10:56 AM William Herrin wrote:
> > > Well, I'm one of the people who'd publish RPKI records for my /23 if I
> > > had the ability to do so and I definitely wo
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:51 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 10:56 AM William Herrin wrote:
> > Well, I'm one of the people who'd publish RPKI records for my /23 if I
> > had the ability to do so and I definitely would NOT pay merit $595/yr
> > (let alone $1k or $2k) to gain that
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 10:56 AM William Herrin wrote:
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> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:46 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote:
> > Legacy holders are sitting on millions or billions worth of assets.
> > RADB USD 595 a year is pennies in comparison, and USD 1k or 2k a year
> > for the RPKI service would still be 1
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:46 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote:
> Legacy holders are sitting on millions or billions worth of assets.
> RADB USD 595 a year is pennies in comparison, and USD 1k or 2k a year
> for the RPKI service would still be 1E-10 of the asset value.
Hi Rubens,
Well, I'm one of the people
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 10:41 AM William Herrin wrote:
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> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:32 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 9:46 AM William Herrin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 4:07 PM Randy Bush wrote:
> > > > > You could try suggesting IANA/PTI/ICANN to have a different R
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:32 PM Rubens Kuhl wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 9:46 AM William Herrin wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 4:07 PM Randy Bush wrote:
> > > > You could try suggesting IANA/PTI/ICANN to have a different RPKI trust
> > > > anchor and provide such services to legacy block
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 9:46 AM William Herrin wrote:
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> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 4:07 PM Randy Bush wrote:
> > > You could try suggesting IANA/PTI/ICANN to have a different RPKI trust
> > > anchor and provide such services to legacy block holders.
> >
> > the rpki design cabal assumed the iana w
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 4:07 PM Randy Bush wrote:
> > You could try suggesting IANA/PTI/ICANN to have a different RPKI trust
> > anchor and provide such services to legacy block holders.
>
> the rpki design cabal assumed the iana would be the rpki root. rir
> power players blocked that. so each
On 15 Sep 2022, at 9:29 PM, Tom Krenn via NANOG
mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote:
An interesting idea, but like others have said I think the ship may have sailed
for RPKI. Really I have no problem with the ARIN fees. They are a drop in the
bucket for most network budgets. In fact as a legacy hol
An interesting idea, but like others have said I think the ship may have sailed
for RPKI. Really I have no problem with the ARIN fees. They are a drop in the
bucket for most network budgets. In fact as a legacy holder I would gladly pay
the same as an RIR-allocated resource holder if it would al
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 7:07 AM Randy Bush wrote:
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> > You could try suggesting IANA/PTI/ICANN to have a different RPKI trust
> > anchor and provide such services to legacy block holders.
>
> the rpki design cabal assumed the iana would be the rpki root. rir
> power players blocked that. so eac
> You could try suggesting IANA/PTI/ICANN to have a different RPKI trust
> anchor and provide such services to legacy block holders.
the rpki design cabal assumed the iana would be the rpki root. rir
power players blocked that. so each rir is 0/0. brilliant, eh?
randy
You could try suggesting IANA/PTI/ICANN to have a different RPKI trust
anchor and provide such services to legacy block holders. As you
mentioned, that would probably have a price tag attached to it to
cover the costs for such operations, but a contract could stay away
from ownership issues and not
Did you check these services?
https://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/geo-and-vpn/
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 6:34 PM Christopher Munz-Michielin <
christop...@ve7alb.ca> wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> For my dayjob I help run an Anycast DNS network and we've recently had
> complaints from our users in the APA
Speaking from the enterprise / end site perspective I would bet there are a lot
of legacy holders that other than maybe updating their reverse DNS records once
or twice haven’t looked at ARIN policies or their allocation since the late
1980s. In most cases there really is not strong technical re
Did you ever manage to find out who at Apple to speak to about getting things
added to or changed in this database?
Quite irritating how there is zero public-facing information about this. Also,
an Apple employee authored RFC 6186, yet they don't implement it??
-- Nathan
From: NANOG [m
On 15 Sep 2022, at 4:45 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote:
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> On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 20:34:43 +
> John Curran wrote:
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>> In any case, legacy resource holders who don’t care for these
>> advanced services (whose development and maintenance is paid for by
>> the ARIN community) can simply continue to m
Is there someone from Ziply Fiber in the PNW here who can contact me
offlist?
Thanks!
--
Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net
Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
503 897-8550 - WB6RDV
Yo John!
On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 20:34:43 +
John Curran wrote:
> In any case, legacy resource holders who don’t care for these
> advanced services (whose development and maintenance is paid for by
> the ARIN community) can simply continue to maintain their legacy
> resources in the ARIN registry
NANOGers -
My bad – one typo in the message that follows; it should read “… it is
important that ARIN not _sunset_ availability of the legacy fee cap …”(NOT
subset, subnet, subject, etc.)
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers
> On 15
John -
Your summary is not inaccurate; I will note that ARIN’s approach is the result
of aiming for
a different target – that more specifically being the lowest possible fees
administered on an
equitable basis for _all resource holders_ in the region.
For more than two decades legacy resour
John Curran wrote:
> > We strongly encourage all legacy resource holders who have not yet
> > signed an LRSA to cover their legacy resources to
Randy Bush wrote:
> consult a competent lawyer before signing an LRSA
Amen to that. ARIN's stance on legacy resources has traditionally been
that ARIN
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