Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Flow collection and analysis

2022-01-27 Thread Mel Beckman
But nobody asked for anything from scratch Eric. Open SSL is it complete ready to integrate package. Any developer worth his salt should be able to put it on any web application. In addition to OpenSSL, there are very compact commercial SSL libraries such as Mocana NanoSSL and wolfSSL, if you wa

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Flow collection and analysis

2022-01-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Not at all, what I'm recommending is that people who develop something that is specialized (like netflow analysis software) don't need to expend the person-hours and extensive development time to implement something that has already been better implemented by people who are httpd specialists. The

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Flow collection and analysis

2022-01-27 Thread Eric Kuhnke
If the purpose of the software is not to be a dedicated purpose http daemon, use something that already exists with a deep feature set that can be configured as needed for the purpose, such as apache2 with openssl or nginx. It's not reasonable to expect that the developers of elastiflow reinvent t

Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile?

2022-01-27 Thread John Levine
It appears that Michael Thomas said: >Didn't Netflix for the longest time run on AWS? They still do. Their web site and the non-realtime stuff is at AWS, the streaming they do themselves. R's, John

Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile?

2022-01-27 Thread Keith Stokes
In Andreessen Horowitz's words: “you’re crazy if you don’t start in the cloud; you’re crazy if you stay on it" On 1/27/22 15:54, Michael Thomas wrote: On 1/26/22 11:11 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: On 1/26/22 17:10, Tom Beecher wrote: Those folks also tend to learn hard lessons about what happ

Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile?

2022-01-27 Thread Michael Thomas
On 1/26/22 11:11 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: On 1/26/22 17:10, Tom Beecher wrote: Those folks also tend to learn hard lessons about what happens when the Magic Cloud provider fails in a way that isn't possible to anticipate because it's all black box. Saving 12 months of opex $ sounds great,

Amazon peering revisited

2022-01-27 Thread Kelly Littlepage via NANOG
Hi all, a nanog thread started on November 23, 2018 discussed the challenges of getting Amazon peering sessions turned up. Has anyone had luck since/does anyone have a contact they could refer me to — off-list or otherwise? The process of getting PNI in place with other CSPs was straightforward, bu

Request to participate in 2-min study survey on IPv6 Adoption

2022-01-27 Thread Smahena Amakran
Dear NANOG community, My name is Smahane Amakran. Some of you might know me as, Smahena from the RIPE NCC. I am studying MBA track Business & IT. For my studies, I am researching IPv6 adoption. With my student hat on, I want to ask you two minutes to answer seven simple survey questions for my

VIDEO | "Internet Innovators" w/ Steve Crocker + N84 Agenda + more

2022-01-27 Thread Nanog News
New Episode of Internet Innovators!*Crocker Reveals a Behind-the-Scenes Look at Internet History* Steve Crocker is known as the man who wrote the instructions for the Internet - in his twenties. But at one time, he was just a young graduate student trying to solve a set of problems. "We knew we d

Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile?

2022-01-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/27/22 14:43, Mike Hammett wrote: Cloud-hosted infrastructure just doesn't work reliably. Too many points of failure along the way. If that were true, the "Internet" (what users define as the Internet) would be down more often than not. For the price, I think there is sufficient relia

Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile?

2022-01-27 Thread Tom Beecher
> > I do disagree, if I understood the argument right. If the argument is > 'cloud makes no business sense to anyone'. > That wasn't the argument I intended to make, but I see how it could have been interpreted that way. There are absolutely a ton of use cases where cloud usage makes absolute sen

Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile?

2022-01-27 Thread Mike Hammett
Cloud-hosted infrastructure just doesn't work reliably. Too many points of failure along the way. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Mark Tinka" To: "Tom Beecher" Cc: "N