Hello,
> I absolutely HATE testing, developing and supporting IPv4+IPv6, more
> than doubling my time, adding 3rd stack would actually not increase
> cost that much, it's the 1=>2 which is fantastically expensive. And
> costs are transferred to customers.
Dual stack is doubling dev time ? Ok...
On Sun, 5 Sept 2021 at 19:22, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> So where does that put us in a decade or two? Which protocol is
> optional?
If we don't get regulatory enforcement or voluntary commitments to
sunset IPv4, we are doomed for dual-stack for the foreseeable future
(decades).
I absolutely HATE test
There is Markley, which is right in Boston(and has a companion facility in
Lowell). https://www.markleygroup.com/
There is coresite, which is in somerville, a stone's throw from boston:
https://www.coresite.com/data-center/bo1-boston-ma
I think Digital realty trust may have a facility in needham.
On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 11:07:22PM +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via NANOG
wrote:
> Another solution that I've used on occasion is to do your own
> tunnelling: find a hosting provider that can provide you a VPS with a v6
> prefix and do your own tunnelling to that. This works by virtue of being
>
On 9/5/21 3:28 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
I looked up CGN's this morning and the thing that struck me the most was
losing port forwarding. It's probably a small thing to most people but
losing it means to get an incoming session it always has to be mediated
by something on the outside. Yuck. S
On 9/4/21 10:43 PM, Saku Ytti wrote:
I view IPv6 as the biggest mistake of my career and feel responsible
for this horrible outcome and I do apologise to Internet users for
it. This dual-stack is the worst possible outcome, and we've been here
over two decades, increasing cost and reducing ser
Hi Toke,
On 9/5/21 3:07 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via NANOG wrote:
Well, that's what I used to do back when I didn't have native v6 and
ran into this issue: block v6 at the DNS level. I.e., simply filter
out all records for offending service providers. Pretty simple
to setup on your home
Grant Taylor via NANOG writes:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have any recommendation for a viable IPv6 tunnel broker /
> provider in the U.S.A. /other/ /than/ Hurricane Electric?
>
> I reluctantly just disabled IPv6 on my home network, provided by
> Hurricane Electric, because multiple services my wife
On 9/5/21 18:22, Bjørn Mork wrote:
I believe this is slowly sinking in among the technology evangelists and
geeks who managed to drive the half-assed dual-stack transition a decade
or two ago. No one will argue for dual-stack anymore.
So where does that put us in a decade or two? Which prot
On 9/5/21 17:43, Brian Knight wrote:
$DAYJOB (at a business SP) is much busier installing more VPNs in the
form of SDWAN than anything IPv6 related. There is a hell of a lot
more customer demand for tools that route packets with finer control
than just dest-based routing, not to mention
* bj...@mork.no (Bjørn Mork) [Sun 05 Sep 2021, 18:24 CEST]:
So where does that put us in a decade or two? Which protocol is
optional?
The one that costs money. You can already see this in mobile networks.
-- Niels.
Saku Ytti writes:
> I view IPv6 as the biggest mistake of my career and feel responsible
> for this horrible outcome and I do apologise to Internet users for
> it. This dual-stack is the worst possible outcome, and we've been here
> over two decades, increasing cost and reducing service quality.
On 9/5/21 12:48 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
There we get to the heart of things.
The problem is not with IPv6 or your ISP (*), but with the Netflix software.
Hum
Doing happy eyeballs and selecting an IP address out of the ones
available that they *then* reject because they don’t like it:
On 2021-09-04 23:33, Mark Tinka wrote:
On 9/5/21 04:49, John Levine wrote:
I have asked my ISP about IPv6 and their answer is that that they're
not opposed to
it but since I am the only person who has asked for it, it's quite low
on the list
of things to do.
Supporting the routing and forwa
On 9/5/21 06:44, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote:
Counting all the profit they make from a captive audience with no
competition? ;)
Well, with no more IPv4 to route and no IPv6 to deliver, those profits
won't be lasting many more years.
Mark.
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