Wow... Talk about a topic that will start a hornet's nest between
engineers and management every time if "money were no object". It's sort
of like airlines asking "what should be the seat width of our cabins?"
You're gonna get some heated responses.
Just jumping into this thread after scanning o
On 5/30/21 8:32 PM, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:
On Sun, 30 May 2021 15:56:52 -0500, Blake Dunlap said:
The co op electric serving my families house in bfe tn that doesn't have
either sewer or cable managed to run hard fiber for dirt cheap to all their
subscribers. Its clear from that the problem isn
On 5/29/21 04:17, Patrick Cole wrote:
We ran a medium sized mpls network using ciena 3900 and 5000 series
boxes on our microwave network.
Nothing but problems, the mpls code was just not mature enough and our
radio network had the boxes falling apart at the seams as storms
rolled throug
On 5/29/21 00:46, Colton Conor wrote:
Yes, I was surprised as you that they have these routing features. I
was also surprised they had multiple boxes that compete with
aggregation devices like the ACX5048. The question is how good is
Ciena's MPLS, switching, and routing stack compared to th
On 5/29/21 00:38, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE wrote:
8 billion fiber drops for 8 billion people.
Technically speaking, 8 billion people is not 8 billion households :-).
But the bigger problem is getting fibre to every family in the world is
not yet currently feasible.
There is
Colton,
This was 6+ years ago, SAOS 6.14, so I don't know it might be better now.
We changed to Cisco ASR920 and it was a night and day difference - we now have
90ish ASR920s in production but are migrating toward the NCS540X.
Patrick
Sat, May 29, 2021 at 10:13:13AM -0500, Colton Conor wrote:
On Sun, 30 May 2021 15:56:52 -0500, Blake Dunlap said:
> The co op electric serving my families house in bfe tn that doesn't have
> either sewer or cable managed to run hard fiber for dirt cheap to all their
> subscribers. Its clear from that the problem isnt can't, it's won't.
Are you able to sha
The co op electric serving my families house in bfe tn that doesn't have
either sewer or cable managed to run hard fiber for dirt cheap to all their
subscribers. Its clear from that the problem isnt can't, it's won't.
Setting the bar so low that podunk wifi 300k links that barely have more
backhaul
An interesting question would be to quantify and do statistical analysis on
the following:
Take a set of 1000 or more residential last mile broadband customers on an
effectively more-than-they-can-use connection (symmetric 1Gbps active
ethernet or similar).
On a 60s interval, retrieve SNMP traffi
søn. 30. maj 2021 15.29 skrev Mike Hammett :
> What can you do with 100 megs that you can't do with 25 megs and why
> should anyone care?
>
That is really the wrong question. People want 100 Mbps over 25 Mbps and
therefore it becomes a need for rural communities. Doesn't matter that
someone belie
Sean -
As others have alluded to, it likely would heavily depend how such a definition
of “broadband Internet" gets used…
As a recommendation, it’s a wonderful thing to have a reference target for
service providers to aim for in their offerings.
As a mandated requirement (e.g. when used for
On 5/29/21 11:39 AM, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE wrote:
> Good point, but developments in QAM technology benefit both fiber and radio
> nowadays.
You can't escape the limits of physics here. Doubling your QAM means you
loose sensitivity, and typically limits your transmitter power to l
What can you do with 100 megs that you can't do with 25 megs and why should
anyone care?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: "Baldur Norddahl"
To: "NANOG"
Sent: Sunday, Ma
That doesn't really serve any value and 99.99% of people would not pay
any more than $50 for the ability, so your ability to execute such a system is
limited.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- O
I’m right there with you. I can download an entire Mac OS update in 6 minutes.
It’s astonishing. I’d pay a grand a month for this. I’d pay five.
-LB
Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
CEO
b...@6by7.net
"The only fully end-to-end encrypted global te
Note, the official broadband definition only means service providers can't
advertise it as "broadband" or **qualify for subsidies**; not that they must
deliver better service.
This seems to be the point most respondents are missing
No entity is blocking slower than X deployments; the 64
At the risk of running afoul (moderators pls delete if inappropriate) - I’d
like to ask the group as a whole where you go these days to find experienced
enterprise telecom relationship managers/salespeople? I’m talking about the
1-2% of the pool that bring their own book, have existing relatio
I don’t think any speed should be mandated.
The speed will increase as fast as the market allows.
Don’t want to much government involvement into any free market business.
Government brings confusion and waste.
Hello Guys
I been on the phone with spectrum business coax tech support and they
are telling me that I have 2 IP's to my modem I pay for static IPs they
are calming these are not real world IP's and I have other IP address
that is tied to my cable modem that is public and they keep telling me I
Well right, but what many seem to be disconnected with is where is the line
between spending a few billion dollars per year and spending tens or hundreds
of billions of dollars per year. We're conflating "minimum acceptable service"
with "what I feel I need to be comfortable."
If we decide
Also, LEOs still won't penetrate foliage.
LEOs won't work in MDUs.
LEOs won't work in varying terrain.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: "Lady Benjami
I think that just underscores that the bps of a connection isn't the end-all,
be-all of connection quality. Yes, I'm sure most of us here knew that. However,
many of us here still get distracted by the bps.
If we can't get it right, how can we expect policy wonks to get it right?
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M
In 2021 I would claim that 100 Mbps is where "good" internet starts. Yes,
25 Mbps will work but it is not good internet. Not to mention 2 Mbps ADSL
which is almost the same as no internet.
Now there are needs for an individual and there are needs for a community.
The rural communities have a genui
Sean Donelan wrote:
Have any academic researchers done work on what are the real-world
minimum connection requirements for home-schooling, video teams
applications, job interview video calls, and network background
application noise?
The requirement is end-to-end QoS guaranteed connections w
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