Re: Are the days of the showpiece NOC office display gone forever?

2020-12-17 Thread Ben Cannon
I’ve learned that the secret is automation + intelligent trained and empowered staff. Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon, ASCE 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC CEO b...@6by7.net "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the world.” FCC License KJ6FJJ Sent from my iPho

Re: Are the days of the showpiece NOC office display gone forever?

2020-12-17 Thread Peter E . Fry
Subject: Re: Are the days of the showpiece NOC office display gone forever? From: Tom Beecher To: Matt Erculiani Cc: NANOG Operators' Group Date: Thursday, 12/17/2020 11:59:37 [...] Contrary to what salespeople will say, the answer is not 100% automation, or 100% humans. The proper a

Re: Don't need someone with clue @ Network Solutions.

2020-12-17 Thread John R. Levine
a czds dl, however, shows: You're right, I checked again. :; zgrep -E ^dns-auth.\.crocker\.com com.txt.gz dns-auth1.crocker.com. 172800 in a 66.59.48.87 dns-auth2.crocker.com. 172800 in a 66.59.48.88 dns-auth3.crocker.com. 172800 in a 66.59.48.94 dns-auth

Re: Don't need someone with clue @ Network Solutions.

2020-12-17 Thread James Cloos
> "JL" == John Levine writes: JL> Right. When I query the .COM zone servers, they say quite clearly that JL> there is no crocker.com glue in the .COM zone. See below. a czds dl, however, shows: :; zgrep -E ^dns-auth.\.crocker\.com com.txt.gz dns-auth1.crocker.com. 172800 in a 6

Re: Are the days of the showpiece NOC office display gone forever?

2020-12-17 Thread Tom Beecher
> > I'm sure when the automation is perfect and widespread to the point that > it catches and alerts on every network event, the monitoring rooms will > disappear. > The chances of this happening are exactly 0%. > But unless you have an entire organization dedicated to automation > development o

Re: Are the days of the showpiece NOC office display gone forever?

2020-12-17 Thread Bryan Holloway
"I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it'd do any good ..." (Ed.: I'd take that "NOC" any day.) On 12/17/20 4:33 PM, Joe Provo wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 12:49:52PM -0800, Eric Kuhnke wrote: [snip] Are the days of such an environment gone forever? We can only hope so.

Re: Are the days of the showpiece NOC office display gone forever?

2020-12-17 Thread Joe Provo
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 12:49:52PM -0800, Eric Kuhnke wrote: [snip] > Are the days of such an environment gone forever? We can only hope so. -- Posted from my personal account - see X-Disclaimer header. Joe Provo / Gweep / Earthling

Re: Are the days of the showpiece NOC office display gone forever?

2020-12-17 Thread Michael Perkins via NANOG
I remember working in the showpiece "Uncle Bernie" Ebbers had built in Ashburn, VA, for UUNET. You can even catch a glimpse of me in the American Greed episode dedicated to WorldCom's downfall. I wonder just what that place looks like now. Since then, I have seen NOCs with multiple displays for

Re: "Hacking" these days - purpose?

2020-12-17 Thread Bjørn Mork
For fun and/or profit. Like the purpose always has been. Note that the definition of fun will vary. But overcoming a challenge of some sort is almost universally considered "fun". Bjørn