Re: FCC: rulemaking on STIR/SHAKEN and Caller ID Authentication

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 7:24 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > We're probably not communicating because lots of carriers are using VoLTE > which SIP end to end, it's likely SIP end-to-end on the singular platform at that carrier (LTE), but if the termination gets to 'not LTE' handsets, it's not SIP an

Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

On Thu Sep 10, 2020 at 04:54:50PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: > When I read up about it, yes, pulling lube and blowing lube > are different and you'll get different results. Microduct > blowing lube is yet another difference. Quite different. This is what we've used on Microduct http://www.emtel

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

I found these threads about BGP Prefix-SID decoded needed for Wireshark. Anyone know what wireshark version fixes this ? I just installed 3.2.6 and that doesn’t seem to do it https://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-bugs/201603/msg00621.html https://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-bu

Re: FCC: rulemaking on STIR/SHAKEN and Caller ID Authentication

On 9/10/20 1:56 PM, Brandon Svec wrote: 99%? If a phone number was used than the PSTN was used. The fact that SIP is involved in part or all of the call path is not very relevant except for peer-to-peer stuff like whatsapp, skype, signal, telegram, etc. (and even those don't use SIP, but I thi

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

Thanks Jeff, this is pretty trippy… I mean the fact that VPNV4 L3VPN works over SRv6 ! I’m so accustomed to seeing L3VPN being an MPLS thing, and now, no labels, no mpls. Wow The wireshark sniff shows… Ethernet Ipv6 Ipv4 That’s it. No double mpls tags like I’ve so familiar with

Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

When I read up about it, yes, pulling lube and blowing lube are different and you'll get different results. Microduct blowing lube is yet another difference. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Me

RE: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

Yep, years ago, the telephone comms guys in the Marine Corps taught me (I was a data pc/network guy) the name “Snot” -Aaron From: NANOG On Behalf Of Brandon Svec Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:48 PM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch I’ve heard peopl

Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

The pulling lube does not work well IMO, the blowing lube made a huge difference. - Jared > On Sep 10, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > I believe this is the stuff we used on our project: > https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/electrical-tools-accessories/wire-conduit-installation/

Re: FCC: rulemaking on STIR/SHAKEN and Caller ID Authentication

A *LOT* goes through at least one TDM transition (so you can kiss that identity header goodbye). None of the big names in long distance termination support STIR/SHAKEN. There's about 4-5 that will do STIR/SHAKEN outside of testbed connectivity (my employer is one). One big name is still using a

Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

I really don't know how you guys jerk off an elephant but normally you just empty it out of the bucket... Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 5:04 PM Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > I recall using that a couple

Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

I recall using that a couple decades ago, helping an electrician pull some circuits through our old office building. I had to put that stuff on the wires as he pulled them from the other end. “Just imagine you are jerking off an elephant” is how he told me to do it. Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Har

Re: FCC: rulemaking on STIR/SHAKEN and Caller ID Authentication

I think people are making a distinction between the traditional way the PSTN works and direct interconnections\Neutral Tandem\Peerless\etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From:

Re: FCC: rulemaking on STIR/SHAKEN and Caller ID Authentication

99%? If a phone number was used than the PSTN was used. The fact that SIP is involved in part or all of the call path is not very relevant except for peer-to-peer stuff like whatsapp, skype, signal, telegram, etc. (and even those don't use SIP, but I think you meant voip more than SIP specifically

Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

I’ve heard people call cable lube elephant snot, lol. > On Sep 10, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > I believe this is the stuff we used on our project: > https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/electrical-tools-accessories/wire-conduit-installation/ideal-regyellow-77-wire-pulling-lubric

Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

I believe this is the stuff we used on our project: https://www.menards.com/main/electrical/electrical-tools-accessories/wire-conduit-installation/ideal-regyellow-77-wire-pulling-lubricant-5-gallon/31-355/p-133962344-c-6458.htm Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 11

Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

> On Sep 10, 2020, at 4:10 PM, Jared Geiger wrote: > > Another Jared with a question. What method did you use to blow the fiber > through the conduit? You mentioned you had trouble figuring out the process > relating to lubrication and building a contraption to blow the fiber. You need the

Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

Another Jared with a question. What method did you use to blow the fiber through the conduit? You mentioned you had trouble figuring out the process relating to lubrication and building a contraption to blow the fiber. ~Jared Geiger On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 5:17 AM Jared Mauch wrote: > > > > On

Re: FCC: rulemaking on STIR/SHAKEN and Caller ID Authentication

On 9/10/20 9:49 AM, Sean Donelan wrote: At this month's FCC rulemaking meeting, it will consider https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-announces-tentative-agenda-september-open-meeting-6 Promoting Caller ID Authentication to Combat Spoofed Robocalls – The Commission will consider a Report and

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

Thanks for the heads up Mark... I see docs showing SRv6 not supported until XR 6.6, I put XR7 in my lab to start testing it... I have what seems to be a good test for vpnv4 mpls l3vpn over SRv6 IS-IS in core This is my first go at this so still learning. Srv6 has a strange locator thing with i

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

I have described what SR is, not what vendors (for variety of reasons) do with it, hence “could” ;-) As a side note - SRoUDP works seamlessly over either v4 or v6. Regards, Jeff > On Sep 10, 2020, at 12:35, Mark Tinka wrote: > >  > >> On 10/Sep/20 10:40, Jeff Tantsura wrote: >> >> MPLS data

FCC: rulemaking on STIR/SHAKEN and Caller ID Authentication

At this month's FCC rulemaking meeting, it will consider https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-announces-tentative-agenda-september-open-meeting-6 Promoting Caller ID Authentication to Combat Spoofed Robocalls – The Commission will consider a Report and Order that would continue its work to imple

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Re: Level3 DNS Issues

Thanks Rob... Albeit intermittent, I am still seeing timeouts when trying to reach this host. Admittedly, it may be a transit / routing issue via BGP neighbor 3356. Yet, I’m not seeing any other layer 2 anomalies. I’m still investigating. I may tear down the peer and see if the behavior persist

Re: Level3 DNS Issues

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 01:20:15PM +, Ryan O’Shea wrote a message of 41 lines which said: > Is anyone experiencing timeouts when querying 209.244.0.3? No, according to RIPE Atlas probes: % blaeu-resolve --nameserver 209.244.0.3 --requested 100 --type SOA . Nameserver 209.244.0.3 [a.root

Re: Level3 DNS Issues

It works fine for me. ~ % dig google.com @209.244.0.3 +short 172.217.5.110 On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 14:20, Ryan O’Shea wrote: > Is anyone experiencing timeouts when querying 209.244.0.3? > > Thanks, > > Ryan O’Shea >

Level3 DNS Issues

Is anyone experiencing timeouts when querying 209.244.0.3? Thanks, Ryan O’Shea

Re: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

> On Sep 10, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Jared Brown wrote: > > I believe this belongs here: > > Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASXJgvy3mEg (YouTube video of NLnog > presentation) > https://nlnog.net/static/live/nlnog_live_sep_2020_jared.pdf (slides for > pr

Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch

I believe this belongs here: Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASXJgvy3mEg (YouTube video of NLnog presentation) https://nlnog.net/static/live/nlnog_live_sep_2020_jared.pdf (slides for presentation) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24424910#24430901 (dis

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

On 10/Sep/20 10:40, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > MPLS data  plane could be instantiated over either IPv4 or IPv6 > (similarly to LDP6), Be mindful of sketchy (or non-existent) IPv6 support in SR for IS-IS and OSPF across all vendors. Mark.

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

SR could be instantiated with 2 data planes, MPLS and IPv6 - SR-MPLS and SRv6 respectively. MPLS data plane could be instantiated over either IPv4 or IPv6 (similarly to LDP6), MPLSoUDP->SRoUDP allows transport of SR-MPLS over IP/UDP(RFC8663) and could be used to build innovative, end2end arch

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, at 08:08, aar...@gvtc.com wrote: > Interesting... I've never heard of SPRINGv4 Neither did I until a few days ago. > I wonder if SPRINGv4 is like SRv6, meaning, SPRING(SR) over IPv4 dataplane? > Or, am I reading way too much into that SPRINGv4 acronym? Like SR-VXLAN ?