Re: mail admins?

2020-04-26 Thread Matt Palmer
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 05:10:56PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 4/26/20 5:07 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 07:59:24AM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: > > > On 4/26/20 7:32 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 07:56:30PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: > >

Re: mail admins?

2020-04-26 Thread Michael Thomas
On 4/26/20 5:07 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 07:59:24AM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: On 4/26/20 7:32 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 07:56:30PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: $SHINYNEWSITE has only to entice you to enter your reused password which comes out i

Re: mail admins?

2020-04-26 Thread Matt Palmer
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 07:59:24AM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 4/26/20 7:32 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 07:56:30PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: > > > $SHINYNEWSITE has only to entice you to enter your reused password which > > > comes out in the clear on the other

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

2020-04-26 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020, Michael Thomas wrote: On 4/25/20 10:23 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: So, harass those phone spammers for fun *and* profit! ;-) Here's the write-up I did, feel free to ask me any questions you may have. :-) What exactly is this "basic internet research"? I thought the bi

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

2020-04-26 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
> Good grief, selling a kit for $47. Since all robocalls employ Caller ID > spoofing, just how does one prove who called? Will the telephone company > simply hand over detailed transport records or the hidden Caller ID > information? I don't care about making money or imposition of government

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

2020-04-26 Thread Michael Thomas
On 4/25/20 10:23 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: On Apr 24, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Matthew Black wrote: Has anyone else noticed a steep decline in annoying phone calls since the FCC threatened legal action against three major VOIP gateways if they didn’

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

2020-04-26 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Sat, 2020-04-25 at 11:23 -0600, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: > > Well, while we are already engaged in the thread, some of you may be > interested to know (especially if you find yourself with time on your > hands these days), that you *can* actually get money from these > scum. In fact, it t

Re: mail admins?

2020-04-26 Thread Michael Thomas
On 4/26/20 7:32 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 07:56:30PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: $SHINYNEWSITE has only to entice you to enter your reused password which comes out in the clear on the other side of that TLS connection.?? basically password phishing. you can whine all yo

Re: mail admins?

2020-04-26 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:47:18AM -0700, William Herrin wrote: > One of the annoyances with both those guys and the swedish folks is > that they're not sending messages to the return path, they're > responding to the header from address. Mailman at NANOG never sees it. > It doesn't pass through th

Re: mail admins?

2020-04-26 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 07:56:30PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: > $SHINYNEWSITE has only to entice you to enter your reused password which > comes out in the clear on the other side of that TLS connection.?? basically > password phishing. you can whine all you like about how stupid they are, but >