Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-05 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/Jan/20 23:10, Michael Thomas wrote: > > > Aren't commercial and MDU just terminating the fiber at the building > and sending ethernet where it's needed? Shane is right - some commercial buildings can make your life difficult when trying to bring in fibre. I've typically found this to be t

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-05 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/Jan/20 22:56, Michael Thomas wrote: > It occurs to me that what we're really quibbling about here is where > fiber ends. Indeed. The notion that wireless will replace fibre is misplaced. Wireless is just so prevalent because folk don't want to be hooked up to some kind of wire. It limits

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-05 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/Jan/20 22:37, Sabri Berisha wrote: > > My instinct tells me it will be some form of low earth orbit satellites. In > the past I worked for a GEO satellite ISP and while that technology has its > drawbacks, those are mostly resolved with transponders in LEO. As a method to reach the 03b +

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-05 Thread Michael Thomas
On 1/5/20 1:05 PM, Shane Ronan wrote: This may be the case for single family homes, but bringing ftth into MDUs can be very ezpensive, as building want to charge entry fees, etc. Same goes for commercial buildings. 5G fixed wireless allows wireless to be used for the last mile, with the use

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-05 Thread Michael Thomas
On 1/5/20 3:21 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: I think we can all agree that the future is wireless access for everything (phones, tablets, laptops, domestic appliances, e.t.c.). The question isn't about whether the kids will be using wire or wireless... we know they will be using wireless. The questio

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-05 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:48 AM, John D'Ambrosia jdambro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, > At the very end you note 100base-t as a precursor to 400g. 100baset really > found its success as an access solution - computer connections. 400GbE will > be > an aggregation / core solution. It will be some t

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-05 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Jan 5, 2020, at 3:21 AM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: Hi, > The question isn't about whether the kids will be using wire or > wireless... we know they will be using wireless. The question is what > that wireless will be. Something has to drive the wireless, so the wire > (mostl

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-05 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/Jan/20 14:48, John D'Ambrosia wrote: > Sabri > At the very end you note 100base-t as a precursor to 400g. 100baset really > found its success as an access solution - computer connections. 400GbE will > be an aggregation / core solution. It will be some time if ever where 400GbE > is

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-05 Thread John D'Ambrosia
Sabri At the very end you note 100base-t as a precursor to 400g. 100baset really found its success as an access solution - computer connections. 400GbE will be an aggregation / core solution. It will be some time if ever where 400GbE is used as an access solution - perhaps some hpc applicatio

Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-05 Thread Mark Tinka
On 5/Jan/20 00:40, Sabri Berisha wrote: > > I'm not sure if you know how that plan works, but domestic I have unlimited > data at a fair speed (10s of Mbit/s). My foreign data is also unlimited > but throttled at 256kbps. Which is good enough for me. > > Of course they will. But the consumer