Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing"

2019-10-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 6:10 AM Bjørn Mork wrote: > > Julien Goodwin writes: > > On 20/10/19 11:08 pm, Bjørn Mork wrote: > >> Hank Nussbacher writes: > >>> On 07/10/2019 17:42, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 03:52:26PM -0400, > Phil Pishioneri wrote > a

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RE: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing"

2019-10-20 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Sunday, 20 October, 2019 06:08, Bjørn Mork wrote: >Hank Nussbacher writes: >> Centralized Internet routing - sounds like DoH for BGP. >Great idea! Why don't we just run BGP over HTTPS? Everyone already has >a browser, so we can get rid of all these expensive routers. >The future is BoH

Re: Request comment: list of IPs to block outbound

2019-10-20 Thread Lukas Tribus
Hello, > > Is this deployed like this in a production transit network? How does > > this network handle a failure like in example 2? How does it > > downstream customers handle the race conditions like in example 1? > > Yes, I've ran BGP prefix-list == firewall filter (same prefix-list > verbatim

Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing"

2019-10-20 Thread Bjørn Mork
Julien Goodwin writes: > On 20/10/19 11:08 pm, Bjørn Mork wrote: >> Hank Nussbacher writes: >>> On 07/10/2019 17:42, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 03:52:26PM -0400, Phil Pishioneri wrote a message of 9 lines which said: > Using Cloud Resources to

Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing"

2019-10-20 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 20/10/19 11:08 pm, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Hank Nussbacher writes: >> On 07/10/2019 17:42, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 03:52:26PM -0400, >>> Phil Pishioneri wrote >>> a message of 9 lines which said: >>> Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Rou

Re: Request comment: list of IPs to block outbound

2019-10-20 Thread Saku Ytti
On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 at 15:22, Lukas Tribus wrote: > I agree this is something that should to be discussed, but to get > there it's probably a very long road. Just look at the sorry state of > BGP filtering itself. And this requires even more precision, > automation,carefulness and *process change

Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing"

2019-10-20 Thread Karsten Thomann via NANOG
Von: na...@radu-adrian.feurdean.net Gesendet: 20. Oktober 2019 12:45 An: nanog@nanog.org Betreff: Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing" On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, at 16:42, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > Executive summary: it's SDN for BGP. Centralizing Internet routing,

Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing"

2019-10-20 Thread Bjørn Mork
Hank Nussbacher writes: > On 07/10/2019 17:42, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 03:52:26PM -0400, >> Phil Pishioneri wrote >> a message of 9 lines which said: >> >>> Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing >>> UMass Amherst researchers to use cloud-

Re: "Using Cloud Resources to Dramatically Improve Internet Routing"

2019-10-20 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, at 16:42, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > Executive summary: it's SDN for BGP. Centralizing Internet routing, > what could go wrong? (As the authors say, "One reason is there is no > single entity that has a big picture of what is going on, no > manager". I wonder who will be I