Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

2018-03-22 Thread Måns Nilsson
--On 22 mars 2018 23:45:16 +0200 Saku Ytti wrote: > On 22 March 2018 at 22:41, Måns Nilsson > wrote: > >> Subject: Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2018 >> at 04:24:47PM + Quoting Job Snijders (j...@instituut.net): >>> Silly question perhaps, but why would you do

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

2018-03-22 Thread Saku Ytti
On 22 March 2018 at 22:41, Måns Nilsson wrote: > Subject: Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at > 04:24:47PM + Quoting Job Snijders (j...@instituut.net): >> Silly question perhaps, but why would you do BFD on dark fiber? > > Because Ethernet lacks the PRDI that r

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

2018-03-22 Thread Ben Bartsch
No sure if this link has been provided yet, but this is how I learned BFD - https://supportforums.cisco.com/t5/service-providers-documents/bfd-support-on-cisco-asr9000/ta-p/3153191 My only experience with BFD has been with short paths using grey optics and interstate DWDM spans. I found 3x50ms ec

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

2018-03-22 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: How are you configuring BFD timers? Date: Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 04:24:47PM + Quoting Job Snijders (j...@instituut.net): > Silly question perhaps, but why would you do BFD on dark fiber? Because Ethernet lacks the PRDI that real WAN protocols have. -- Måns Nilsson primary/se

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

2018-03-22 Thread Scott Weeks
--- s...@ytti.fi wrote: From: Saku Ytti ...but I have far more BFD caused problems than BFD solved problems, spanning multiple vendors. (CAT7600, ASR9k, MX). Yes, that's for sure. Also, it's hard to scale when you're tweaking knobs on each session t

Re: Juniper MX - Routed pseudowire using LDP - VPWS or VPLS

2018-03-22 Thread Ben Bartsch
I do see one benefit to using the stitched LT VPWS solution - MAC learning. On the VPWS solution, your PE devices are not learning the MAC addresses. I also noticed that Juniper is a bit strange with VPLS attached to the IRB in that you never see the IRB MAC in the VPLS instance. But I think thi

COX BGP contact

2018-03-22 Thread Deepak Jain
I know there should be a more reasonable way to do this. If someone has responsibility for COX BGP (AS 22773) would love to hear from you. Multiple days of getting the run around in various NOCs has lead to nowhere. Thanks in advance, Deepak

Looking for someone from Intuit to contact me.

2018-03-22 Thread Anthony Leto
I have a few users on my cloud that are not able to reach intuit.com or quickbooks.intuit.com. In addition my users are not able to eFile taxes from their terminal server with Quickbooks on it. We have checked and our firewalls are not blocking.

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

2018-03-22 Thread Jason Lixfeld
Thanks to everyone who has responded so far. Enlightening! My understanding around the origins of BFD is that it was developed in part to try and bring SONET like switchover times to an Ethernet world. What I’m reading is for those who do run BFD, no one seems to be dialing it down to try and

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

2018-03-22 Thread Saku Ytti
RFI is corollary to LOS. Both are essentially speed of light limited, there in no uncertainty or detection margin. After one side sees LOS other side will see RFI, if it's not seeing LOS as well. I personally would consider BFD for: radio, pseudowire, L2 switch and equivalent poorly failing links

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

2018-03-22 Thread James Bensley
On 22 March 2018 at 09:59, Saku Ytti wrote: > Ethernet handles unidirectional failure natively through autonego asserting > RFI. I was thinking about this as I wrote that post. I've not had a chance to test this across our various devices types, I will have to try and find the time to test which

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

2018-03-22 Thread James Bensley
On 21 March 2018 at 13:10, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > Hey, > > For those running BFD on your land-based point-to-point links, I’m interested > in hearing about what factors you consider when deciding how to configure > your timers and multiplier. > > On paper, BFD between two devices over a local or

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

2018-03-22 Thread Saku Ytti
On 22 March 2018 at 10:47, James Bensley wrote: > On 21 March 2018 at 16:37, Luke Guillory wrote: >> He's asking because if it was dark the interface would go down when the link >> was lost and the router would pull routes. But PA to FL would lead me to >> believe it'll be a wave from some typ

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

2018-03-22 Thread Saku Ytti
Why does DWDM imply need of BFD? DWDM has no problem propagating loss-of-signal and asserting remote failure. It is of course possible to configure DWDM so that this does not happen, particularly if you buy protected circuit you might not want it to happen. But as per usual, you should test that

Re: How are you configuring BFD timers?

2018-03-22 Thread James Bensley
On 21 March 2018 at 16:37, Luke Guillory wrote: > He's asking because if it was dark the interface would go down when the link > was lost and the router would pull routes. But PA to FL would lead me to > believe it'll be a wave from some type of DWDM gear which brings us to BFD. Could it not al

Re: Brocade unsupported transceiver?

2018-03-22 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hello Eric, I got confused, you are absolutely right. Here is a thread I started a few years ago when we bought our first units : https://community.brocade.com/t5/Ethernet-Fabric-VDX-CNA/Passive-Twinax-cables-not-recognized-in-VDX-switches/td-p/28978 Best regards. 2018-03-21 23:58 GMT+01:00 E