Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
Well yes, but functionally, how is IP transport sufficiently different to make it an "information service" rather than a "telecommunications service?"  At least that's the argument I'd make against reclassifying access services. Miles On 11/22/17 9:24 PM, Luke Guillory wrote: Those normall

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Luke Guillory
Those normally come with ASRs and a tariff from the regulated side of things. At least from my experience anyway. Sent from my iPad On Nov 22, 2017, at 10:08 PM, Miles Fidelman mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net>> wrote: On 11/22/17 2:50 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:35 P

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 11/22/17 2:50 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei < jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote: The FCC is about to reclassify "Broadband Internet Access Service" as an information service instead of Telecommunications Service. This prombpted the following

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Thomas Edwards
Regarding transit and traffic exchange, in today’s FCC Declaratory Ruling: 166. Deregulating Internet Traffic Exchange. Today, we return to the pre-Title II Order status quo by classifying broadband Internet access service as an information service, and in doing so, reverse the extension of Tit

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei < jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote: > The FCC is about to reclassify "Broadband Internet Access Service" as an > information service instead of Telecommunications Service. This > prombpted the following question which isn't about the FCC action

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Scott Weeks
--- jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote: From: Jean-Francois Mezei This is about how does one define Transit provider vs ISP ? Just curious to see if there are agreed upon definitions from the network operators's point of view. -- Different parts of the sa

Re: Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Javier J
I can't seem to find the answer for this. But I'm curious as to what exactly is proposed. On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei < jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote: > The FCC is about to reclassify "Broadband Internet Access Service" as an > information service instead of Telecomm

Definition of ISP vs Transit provider

2017-11-22 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
The FCC is about to reclassify "Broadband Internet Access Service" as an information service instead of Telecommunications Service. This prombpted the following question which isn't about the FCC action per say. This is about how does one define Transit provider vs ISP ? Cogent for instance acts

Broadcast television in an IP world

2017-11-22 Thread Thomas Edwards
Of potential interest to NANOG members, a key element of the new digital TV OTA standard, ATSC 3.0 (besides improved efficiency/flexibility of modulation, 4K, HEVC video coding, AC-4 immersive audio, high dynamic range/wide color gamut), is the expectation that it will be typically be viewed on

RE: Amazon Streaming Department

2017-11-22 Thread Adam Montgomery
Jason, we had a similar issue as well. I was able to get in contact with some helpful people at Amazon who got it fixed for us. I passed your info along to them. If anyone else is having the same issue, shoot me a message and I'll pass your info along as well. Adam - Hello all

Re: Broadcast television in an IP world

2017-11-22 Thread K. Scott Helms
Mike, While that's true today it's changing rapidly. Linear viewership is, depending on your take on things, either in the beginning or the middle of it's long tail phase. You're right in that we'll have people using linear viewing habits for a long time, but that model only looks sustainable ov

Re: ospf database size - affects that underlying transport mtu might have

2017-11-22 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 11/22/17 9:51 AM, Aaron Gould wrote: This is a *single area* ospf environment, that has been stable for years.. But now suddenly is having issues with new ospf neightbor adjacencies , which are riding a 3rd party transport network Anyone ever experienced anything strange with underlying trans

ospf database size - affects that underlying transport mtu might have

2017-11-22 Thread Aaron Gould
This is a *single area* ospf environment, that has been stable for years.. But now suddenly is having issues with new ospf neightbor adjacencies , which are riding a 3rd party transport network Anyone ever experienced anything strange with underlying transport network mtu possibly causing ospf