Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks

2016-07-29 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 07:50:09 -0500, "J. Oquendo" said: > In my ramblings on "Why network operators love filth", I > associate a landlord that knowingly allows his/her tenant > to sell drugs. In America, your house is gone. This should > be the case on the Internet as well. Oh, do *NOT* go there.

Re: Google.com redirecting to Google.co.in

2016-07-29 Thread J. Hellenthal
Haha -- Onward! J. Hellenthal Systems & Network Admin JJH48-ARIN On Jul 29, 2016, at 18:04, Larry Sheldon wrote: > On 7/29/2016 10:02, Vikash Sorout via NANOG wrote: > blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px > #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !imp

Re: Google.com redirecting to Google.co.in

2016-07-29 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 7/29/2016 10:02, Vikash Sorout via NANOG wrote: blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Hi All, When I am trying to hit Google.com it's redirecting me to Google.c

Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks

2016-07-29 Thread bzs
Unfortunately that raises the issue of what's generally termed in law a "business boycott" which is at least tortiable if not illegal. The grocer can't agree with your landlord not to sell you food until you catch up on the rent. They can agree to use this information to refuse you credit but ev

Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)

2016-07-29 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 08:58:23PM +0700, Roland Dobbins wrote: > The AUP, the TOS, and the RFP are the most powerful security tools any > network operator has at their disposal - assuming they've invested some time > and effort in crafting them, and in ensuring they can be enforced. This. A hund

Weekly Routing Table Report

2016-07-29 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG, SdNOG, BJNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.

Google.com redirecting to Google.co.in

2016-07-29 Thread Vikash Sorout via NANOG
blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Hi All, When I am trying to hit Google.com it's redirecting me to Google.co.in. I am using VPN network globally over MPLS networ

ASR920-12G-2-10G

2016-07-29 Thread Andrew N
Hello, We're looking to purchase 1. Can anyone confirm this is a permanent license for the router? Thanks. Andrew

Re: Yahoo Postmaster or Email Admin

2016-07-29 Thread Mark Stevens
Thanks to everyone who helped with this issue. All cleared up now. Mark On 7/27/2016 1:05 PM, Mark Stevens wrote: I have been to https://postmaster.yahoo.com and even filled out a bulk email form (explained the issue in the notes section) but still no go. I even have a ticket opened with their s

Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks

2016-07-29 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Fri 2016-Jul-29 07:50:09 -0500, J. Oquendo wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:30:12PM +, Donn Lasher via NANOG wrote: > If we want to be accurate about it, Cloudflare doesn???t host the DDoS, > they protect the website of seller of the product.

Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)

2016-07-29 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 29 Jul 2016, at 20:34, J. Oquendo wrote: Because someone breaking AUPs and TOS is not enough. The AUP, the TOS, and the RFP are the most powerful security tools any network operator has at their disposal - assuming they've invested some time and effort in crafting them, and in ensuring t

Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)

2016-07-29 Thread J. Oquendo
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Naslund, Steve wrote: > What he said. If I am given a court order and follow it, I can't get sued > when I knock you off the Internet. > > Steven Naslund Because someone breaking AUPs and TOS is not enough. "Hey I know you broke every rule in the book. Forget that for now

RE: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)

2016-07-29 Thread Naslund, Steve
What he said. If I am given a court order and follow it, I can't get sued when I knock you off the Internet. Steven Naslund >-Original Message- >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bush >Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 8:04 AM >To: chris >Cc: North American Netwo

Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)

2016-07-29 Thread Randy Bush
> great quote from the reporter "why do you need a court order to do the > right thing?" because i am not judge and jury. we leave that to network technicians. randy

Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks

2016-07-29 Thread J. Oquendo
On Fri, 29 Jul 2016, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:30:12PM +, Donn Lasher via NANOG wrote: > > If we want to be accurate about it, Cloudflare doesn???t host the DDoS, > > they protect the website of seller of the product. We shouldn???t be > > de-peering Cloud Flare over si

Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks

2016-07-29 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:30:12PM +, Donn Lasher via NANOG wrote: > If we want to be accurate about it, Cloudflare doesn???t host the DDoS, > they protect the website of seller of the product. We shouldn???t be > de-peering Cloud Flare over sites they protect any more than we would > de-peer G

Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)

2016-07-29 Thread Saku Ytti
On 28 July 2016 at 19:27, chris wrote: > They don't discriminate, anyone can be a customer > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4GfoSZ_sDc > > great quote from the reporter "why do you need a court order to do the > right thing?" Only failure here is accepting interview request from FOX. Who obviou