Re: de-peering for security sake

2016-01-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:09:27 -0800, Owen DeLong said: > > Making the owner of the host responsible for an attack -personally- > > responsible would require every grandma & 6 year old to have insurance > > before > > buying a laptop or Xbox. And would bankrupt your favorite startup no matter > >

Re: de-peering for security sake

2016-01-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 09:53:40 -0500, Rich Kulawiec said: > I've said this many times: abuse does not magically fall out of the sky. > It comes from hosts, on networks, run by people. It is time -- well > past time -- to hold those people *personally* acountable. And who, *exactly*, are you planni

Real Customer Choice For T-Mobile’s Binge On Requires Transparency, Opt-In

2016-01-16 Thread Doug Barton
If you’ve been paying attention, you probably noticed the recent headlines about T-Mobile CEO John Legere and his anti-EFF mini-rant on Twitter. Legere was responding to a question we had asked about T-Mobile’s Binge On service: “Does Binge On alter the video stream in any way, or just limit it

Re: de-peering for security sake

2016-01-16 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jan 16, 2016, at 07:15 , Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > On Jan 16, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rich Kulawiec > wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 05:43:56AM -0800, Ca By wrote: > >>> I see a great deal of folks on nanog clamoring to buy ddos gear. Packets >>> are starting to beco

Re: de-peering for security sake

2016-01-16 Thread Owen DeLong
> The pessimistic side of me believes cloudflare and akamai want the internet > to be choked with bots such that everyone must pay their toll, so the > information on the bots is a trade secret... But please prove me wrong so > we can drive higher accountability on the internet. I am not speaking

Re: de-peering for security sake

2016-01-16 Thread Ca By
On Saturday, January 16, 2016, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > On Jan 16, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rich Kulawiec > > wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 05:43:56AM -0800, Ca By wrote: > > >> I see a great deal of folks on nanog clamoring to buy ddos gear. Packets > >> are starting to become like spam email,

Re: de-peering for security sake

2016-01-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jan 16, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 05:43:56AM -0800, Ca By wrote: >> I see a great deal of folks on nanog clamoring to buy ddos gear. Packets >> are starting to become like spam email, where 90% are pure rubbish, and >> us good guys have to spend a lot o

Re: de-peering for security sake

2016-01-16 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 05:43:56AM -0800, Ca By wrote: > I see a great deal of folks on nanog clamoring to buy ddos gear. Packets > are starting to become like spam email, where 90% are pure rubbish, and > us good guys have to spend a lot of money and time sorting signal from > noise. I've said

Re: de-peering for security sake

2016-01-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Agreed. A "Top 10" report would be awesome. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Ca By" To: "Rich Kulawiec" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, January 1

Re: de-peering for security sake

2016-01-16 Thread Ca By
On Saturday, January 16, 2016, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 11:44:10PM +, Colin Johnston wrote: > > We really need to ask if China and Russia for that matter will not > > take abuse reports seriously why allow them to network to the internet ? > > One could ask the exact sam

Re: network issue on ec2 classic us-east-1??

2016-01-16 Thread Bryan Cheng
Could be residual from this incident yesterday? AWS claims it's been resolved, though. [RESOLVED] Instance Connectivity 3:13 PM PST We are investigating connectivity issues for some instances in the US-EAST-1 Region. 3:33 PM PST We can confirm connectivity issues when using public IP addresses for

Re: network issue on ec2 classic us-east-1??

2016-01-16 Thread Neil Robst
Hi Grant, We saw the first confirmed issue last week. So far only experienced 2 confirmed - that last week and one this morning, but its possible there have been others. Neil From: Grant Ridder Date: Friday, January 15, 2016 at 1:54 PM To: Neil Robst Cc: "do...@telecurve.com" , NANO

Re: network issue on ec2 classic us-east-1??

2016-01-16 Thread Neil Robst
Hi David and Grant, We have been experiencing exactly the same issue also now whereby our instances randomly stop getting their DHCP reservation and then drop offline. A simple reboot in the AWS console usually sorts it but as yet we do not know the root cause. Regards, Neil On 1/15/16,

RPKI Deployment Study

2016-01-16 Thread Gilad, Yossi
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Re: de-peering for security sake

2016-01-16 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 11:44:10PM +, Colin Johnston wrote: > We really need to ask if China and Russia for that matter will not > take abuse reports seriously why allow them to network to the internet ? One could ask the exact same question about Amazon -- which, as of the moment, is the wors