Re: CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread Mel Beckman
Information about road conditions and accidents is one key public safety function of the site. -mel Carpe Lunch (Mel) > On Sep 27, 2015, at 10:57 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: > >> On 9/28/2015 00:24, Christopher Morrow wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:42 AM, wrote: >>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2015

Re: CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 9/28/2015 00:24, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:42 AM, wrote: On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:21:41 -0700, Joe Hamelin said: It is late Sunday night. When would you do maintenance? If it isn't important enough to get a loadbalancer (or other HA solution) and a second server

Re: CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 12:42 AM, wrote: > On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:21:41 -0700, Joe Hamelin said: >> It is late Sunday night. When would you do maintenance? > > If it isn't important enough to get a loadbalancer (or other HA solution) > and a second server so you can do maintenance without anybod

Re: CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread Joe Hamelin
It might have been the "el-cheapo" server that crashed. If that's what happened, are you going to eat your maintenance window to fix it? -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474

Re: CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 21:21:41 -0700, Joe Hamelin said: > It is late Sunday night. When would you do maintenance? If it isn't important enough to get a loadbalancer (or other HA solution) and a second server so you can do maintenance without anybody noticing, you *deserve* to have it noticed when t

Re: CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread Mel Beckman
I work with a lot of government agencies. All run through their IT funding long before niceties such a maintenance notifications get built. That's at the end of a never-ending task list. -mel beckman > On Sep 27, 2015, at 9:40 PM, alvin nanog > wrote: > > >> On 09/27/15 at 09:21pm, Joe Ha

Re: CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread Mel Beckman
On a government website? Ha! -mel beckman > On Sep 27, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Wouldn't you expect a maintenance window to say so? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 >> On Sep 28, 2015 12:23 AM, "Joe H

Re: CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread alvin nanog
On 09/27/15 at 09:21pm, Joe Hamelin wrote: > It is late Sunday night. When would you do maintenance? even if one was doing maintenance, there is no reason not to have at least 1 el-cheapo server replying that it's under maintenance vs being suspect of other reasons of it being down there's got

Re: CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Wouldn't you expect a maintenance window to say so? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 28, 2015 12:23 AM, "Joe Hamelin" wrote: > It is late Sunday night. When would you do maintenance? > > -- > Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 3

Re: CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread Joe Hamelin
It is late Sunday night. When would you do maintenance? -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Grant Ridder wrote: > Hey, > > If anyone from CHP (california highway patrol) is listening, your website > is returning a 503. > > curl -v https://www.chp.c

Re: Recent trouble with QUIC?

2015-09-27 Thread Saku Ytti
On 27 September 2015 at 18:38, Lyle Giese wrote: > Part of freedom is to minimize the harm and I think that is where the > parties replying to this thread diverge. A broken change that causes harm > should have/could have been tested better before releasing it to the public > on the Internet. >

Re: Recent trouble with QUIC?

2015-09-27 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Maybe Google should return the money you paid for access to their search engine and associated free applications during the time it was down. Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhone) > On Sep 27, 2015, at 6:38 PM, Lyle Giese wrote: > > > >> On 09/27/15 16:16, Saku Ytti wrote: >> On 25 Septembe

CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread Grant Ridder
Hey, If anyone from CHP (california highway patrol) is listening, your website is returning a 503. curl -v https://www.chp.ca.gov * Rebuilt URL to: https://www.chp.ca.gov/ * Hostname was NOT found in DNS cache * Trying 168.145.114.48... * Connected to www.chp.ca.gov (168.145.114.48) port 443 (#

Re: Recent trouble with QUIC?

2015-09-27 Thread Lyle Giese
On 09/27/15 16:16, Saku Ytti wrote: On 25 September 2015 at 16:20, Ca By wrote: Hey, I remained very disappointed in how google has gone about quic. They are dismissive of network operators concerns (quic protocol list and ietf), cause substantial outages, and have lost a lot of good will

Re: Recent trouble with QUIC?

2015-09-27 Thread Saku Ytti
On 25 September 2015 at 16:20, Ca By wrote: Hey, > I remained very disappointed in how google has gone about quic. > > They are dismissive of network operators concerns (quic protocol list and > ietf), cause substantial outages, and have lost a lot of good will in the > process > > Here's your p

Re: Question re session hijacking in dual stack environments w/MacOS

2015-09-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Connor Wilkins wrote: > My geolocation when connected to WiFi and when using cellular data are > widely different. WiFi reports the city I'm in while cellular reports the > city that their HQ is in. that really depends on the carrier though, I suspect... geo-ip s

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

2015-09-27 Thread Connor Wilkins
On 2015-09-26 22:56, Seth Mattinen wrote: What's worked for me is not signing or renewing or buying things that lack IPv6 support. While you're demanding better technology you may also want to include things like crypto in there. I've gotten proposals for things that support IPv6 but only work

Re: Question re session hijacking in dual stack environments w/MacOS

2015-09-27 Thread Connor Wilkins
On 2015-09-27 03:34, Dovid Bender wrote: But when you're seeing the same session being used from two wildly different places (in this case, IPv4 and IPv6) at the SAME TIME, that does seem rather suspicious in the absence of other information. iOS 9 has a new feature called "Wi-Fi Assist" that w

Re: Question re session hijacking in dual stack environments w/MacOS

2015-09-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 03:34:54 -, "Dovid Bender" said: > But when you're seeing the same session being used from two wildly different > places (in this case, IPv4 and IPv6) at the SAME TIME, that does seem rather > suspicious in the absence of other information. Other information,: Happy Eyebal

Re: Recent trouble with QUIC?

2015-09-27 Thread Alan Buxey
Yes. Next gen firewalls stop that kind of game ;) alan