Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-25 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > As for the content.. a scalable network is one > you can add hosts to, so what's a non-scalable network? will the > building collapse if i plug my laptop in? Hi Mike, A few starting points for interesting insight: https://bill.herrin.us/netwo

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-25 Thread Laurent Dumont
Merry Christmas! (Even if slightly late...) I absolutely agree. The certification by itself doesn't prove much beyond a passing interest in networking and an ability to retain a fair amount of information. I suspect it's mostly a question of creating some kind of standard to judge applicants.

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-25 Thread Alain Hebert
Well let start with: Happy Holidays. In my line of work anyone with a CCNA get put at the bottom of the pile =D We're looking for proactive associates and found that applicants which present themselves as a CCNA engineer foremost are only just that: Someone that could follow the course and bother

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-25 Thread Laurent Dumont
The Cisco "Networking Academy" program was used throughout my "CEGEP"(End of high-school/first college year equivalent in the US) education in Quebec. There was no deviation from the course work and the aim was to get the student CCNA certified at the end. On 12/25/2014 7:21 PM, Miles Fidelman

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-25 Thread Miles Fidelman
FYI, just checked, and, Comer's "Internetworking with TCP/IP" seems to be in its 6th edition, published 2013 Stallings' "Data and Computer Communications" seems to be in its 10th edition, also 2013 Tannenbaum's "Computer Networks" seems to be in its 5th edition, published 2010 So... all stil

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-25 Thread Miles Fidelman
Well... to be accurate, and just a tad pedantic, the basis for TCP/IP is: "A Protocol for Packet Network Intercommunication," Vinton G. Cerf & Robert E. Kahn, IEEE Trans on Comms, Vol Com-22, No 5 May 1974 Miles Fidelman Grant Ridder wrote: I used Stallings a couple years ago. Cisco is not th

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-25 Thread Grant Ridder
I used Stallings a couple years ago. Cisco is not the basis of networking. It is the basis for TCP/IP. -Grant On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Cisco as the basis of networking material? Does nobody use Comer, > Stallings, or Tannenbaum as basic texts anymore? > > Miles

Re: AutoReply: NANOG Digest, Vol 83, Issue 25

2014-12-25 Thread Larry Sheldon
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Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-25 Thread Miles Fidelman
Cisco as the basis of networking material? Does nobody use Comer, Stallings, or Tannenbaum as basic texts anymore? Miles Fidelman Mike Jones wrote: I am a university student that has just completed the first term of the first year of a Computer Systems and Networks course. Apart from a really

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-25 Thread Mike Jones
I am a university student that has just completed the first term of the first year of a Computer Systems and Networks course. Apart from a really out of place MATH module that did trig but not binary, it has been reasonably well run so far. The binary is covered in a different module, just not math

Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....

2014-12-25 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: How our young colleagues are being educated Date: Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:40:48AM -0500 Quoting Scott Morris (s...@emanon.com): > Now, as a side, one problem that I often have with various academic-based > courses is that the people who teach them often don¹t have enough > real-

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IPv6 survey (JANOG 35 IPv6 session)

2014-12-25 Thread MAWATARI Masataka
Hi all, JANOG will have a session "Why don't we want to deploy IPv6?" in JANOG 35 meeting next month. It will focus on IPv6 deployment of the contents providers in Japan. To help us make this session better, we carry out a questionnaire survey to the service providers. It would be great if you