Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le 15/01/2014 07:59, Eric A Louie a écrit : > Ok, so the right way to do it is in iBGP. That pretty much answers the > question - don't redistribute those ixp-participant prefixes into my IGP. Yes, using next-hop self (rather than importing IXP routes) as pointed out earlier in this thread. > >

Re: gmail.com - 550 error for ipv6/PTR ?

2014-01-14 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 19:06 -0500, Brandon Applegate wrote: > Just saw this in a message tonight. No idea if this is a transient error > or not. Got one too for AS197422 at "Tue, 14 Jan 2014 23:59:01 +0100", resent the mail at "Wed, 15 Jan 2014 00:03:12 +0100" and it worked so probably transient

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Eric A Louie
Ok, so the right way to do it is in iBGP.  That pretty much answers the question - don't redistribute those ixp-participant prefixes into my IGP. I have a lot of iBGP homework to do, to make it work with the 5 POPs that are all taking full route feeds.  I tried once and couldn't get the BGP tabl

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Eric A Louie wrote: > Never mind, I just carefully re-read the point. Right, I'll filter the > prefix(es) of the IXP LAN(s) that I'm connected to and not let THAT get out, > no reason to advertise it since no traffic ever goes to it. That still has > me asking

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Eric A Louie wrote: > Thank you - I will heed the warning. I want to be a good community member > and make sure we're maintaining the agreed-upon practices (I'll > re-read/review my agreement with the IXP) > > > So if that is the case, I have to rely on the peer

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Eric A Louie
Never mind, I just carefully re-read the point.  Right, I'll filter the prefix(es) of the IXP LAN(s) that I'm connected to and not let THAT get out, no reason to advertise it since no traffic ever goes to it.  That still has me asking to how best to advertise the rest of the public prefixes comi

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Eric A Louie
Thank you - I will heed the warning.  I want to be a good community member and make sure we're maintaining the agreed-upon practices (I'll re-read/review my agreement with the IXP) So if that is the case, I have to rely on the peering fabric to just return traffic, since the rest of my networ

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Jan 15, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > I repeat: NEVER EVER EVER put an IX prefix into BGP, IGP, or even static > route. An IXP LAN should not be reachable from any device except those > directly attached to that LAN. Period. +1 Again, folks, this isn't theoretical. When

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jan 14, 2014, at 23:03 , Leo Bicknell wrote: > On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > >> So Just Don't Do It. Setting next-hop-self is not just for "big guys", the >> crappiest, tiniest router that can do peering at an IXP has the same >> ability. Use it. Stop putting me a

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Leo Bicknell
On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > So Just Don't Do It. Setting next-hop-self is not just for "big guys", the > crappiest, tiniest router that can do peering at an IXP has the same ability. > Use it. Stop putting me and every one of your peers in danger because you are >

Re: gmail.com - 550 error for ipv6/PTR ?

2014-01-14 Thread Blair Trosper
Possibly related, a lot of 503 errors are starting to show up in the javascript served by Google inside Gmail...reminds me of the issue in the early morning hours (US time)...very similar to what I'm starting to see on the front end. I've not had any IPv6 emails bounce, but I do have some that are

Re: gmail.com - 550 error for ipv6/PTR ?

2014-01-14 Thread Blair Trosper
FWIW I do know there was a MASSIVE failure last night around 0800 UTC with Google's DNS system, and it caused their routing to not only go bat shit insane, but also for the edge nodes that serve their content to return largely 503 errors (service unavailable) for several hours. It wasn't until a f

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jan 14, 2014, at 22:20 , Leo Bicknell wrote: > On Jan 14, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Eric A Louie wrote: > >> I have a connection to a peering fabric and I'm not distributing the peering >> fabric routes into my network. > > There's a two part problem lurking. > > Problem #1 is how you handle your

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Leo Bicknell
On Jan 14, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Eric A Louie wrote: > I have a connection to a peering fabric and I'm not distributing the peering > fabric routes into my network. There's a two part problem lurking. Problem #1 is how you handle your internal routing. Most of the "big boys" will next-hop-self

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Cb B
On Jan 14, 2014 7:13 PM, "Patrick W. Gilmore" wrote: > > Pardon the top post, but I really don't have anything to comment below other than to agree with Chris and say rfc5963 is broken. > > NEVER EVER EVER put an IX prefix into BGP, IGP, or even static route. An IXP LAN should not be reachable fro

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Pardon the top post, but I really don't have anything to comment below other than to agree with Chris and say rfc5963 is broken. NEVER EVER EVER put an IX prefix into BGP, IGP, or even static route. An IXP LAN should not be reachable from any device not directly attached to that LAN. Period. D

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Cb B wrote: > On Jan 14, 2014 6:01 PM, "Eric A Louie" wrote: >> >> I have a connection to a peering fabric and I'm not distributing the > peering fabric routes into my network. >> good plan. >> I see three options >> 1. redistribute into my igp (OSPF) >> >> 2. c

Re: gmail.com - 550 error for ipv6/PTR ?

2014-01-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Ted Cooper wrote: > On 15/01/14 10:06, Brandon Applegate wrote: >> Off-list replies are fine to minimize noise, and if there is an answer >> or any meaningful correlation I will reply on-list. Thanks in advance >> for any info/feedback. > brandon, I didn't get yo

Re: best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Cb B
On Jan 14, 2014 6:01 PM, "Eric A Louie" wrote: > > I have a connection to a peering fabric and I'm not distributing the peering fabric routes into my network. > > I see three options > 1. redistribute into my igp (OSPF) > > 2. configure ibgp and route them within that infrastructure. All the defa

best practice for advertising peering fabric routes

2014-01-14 Thread Eric A Louie
I have a connection to a peering fabric and I'm not distributing the peering fabric routes into my network. I see three options 1. redistribute into my igp (OSPF) 2. configure ibgp and route them within that infrastructure.  All the default routes go out through the POPs so iBGP would see packe

Re: gmail.com - 550 error for ipv6/PTR ?

2014-01-14 Thread Ted Cooper
On 15/01/14 10:06, Brandon Applegate wrote: > Off-list replies are fine to minimize noise, and if there is an answer > or any meaningful correlation I will reply on-list. Thanks in advance > for any info/feedback. I have been running into these a lot also and have so far concluded that it is an e

Re: gmail.com - 550 error for ipv6/PTR ?

2014-01-14 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >Just saw this in a message tonight. No idea if this is a transient error >or not. I saw the same thing, on an IP that has forward and reverse DNS and mail that passes SPF. Burp, I guess.

gmail.com - 550 error for ipv6/PTR ?

2014-01-14 Thread Brandon Applegate
Just saw this in a message tonight. No idea if this is a transient error or not. --- host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com][2607:f8b0:4002:c01::1a]    said: 550-5.7.1 [2607:ff70:11::11] Our system has detected that this    message does not 550-5.7.1 meet IPv6 sending gui

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-01-14 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2014-01-14 08:35 -0800), Damian Menscher wrote: > I see this as a form of BCP38, but imposed on networks by their transit > providers, rather than done voluntarily. It would be great if it could > work, but I have doubts due to asymmetric routing announcements intended > for traffic shaping.

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-01-14 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 1/13/2014 11:18 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: > On (2014-01-13 21:33 +), Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > >>> BCP38! I am always surprised when people need crypto if they >>> fail the simple things. > Saying that BCP38 is solution to the reflection attacks i

Re: [VoiceOps] (cross post) VoIP heat charts...

2014-01-14 Thread Derek Andrew
http://www.nanpa.com/nanp1/allutlzd.zip lists NPANXX and Ratecentre. derek On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Paul Timmins wrote: > > On Jan 9, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > > > - Original Message - > >> > >> > >> Looking to "heat chart" where fraudelent calls are going. > >

Re: OpenNTPProject.org

2014-01-14 Thread Tony Finch
Jared Mauch wrote: > > 3) You want to upgrade NTP, or adjust your ntp.conf to include ‘limited’ > or ‘restrict’ lines or both. (I defer to someone else to be an expert > in this area, but am willing to learn :) ) There is useful guidance for Cisco, Juniper, and Unix here: https://www.team-cymru