Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-11-28 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013, Mark Andrews wrote: In message , Mikael Abrahamsson writes: On Fri, 29 Nov 2013, Mark Andrews wrote: You can hand out /48 as easily with 6rd as you can natively. You're contradicting yourself here. What contradiction? "As easily". It's easier to either hand out /6

Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-11-28 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > On Fri, 29 Nov 2013, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > You can hand out /48 as easily with 6rd as you can natively. > > > > It's only when the ISP is lazy and encodes the entire IPv4 address > > space into 6rd thereby wasting most of the IPv6 address space being

Re: What routers do folks use these days?

2013-11-28 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Mikael, > Some go for the new Sup2T for the 6500, but I don't know how much more CPU it > has compared to your SUP/RSP720, perhaps someone else knows? The Sup2T I worked on has: CPU: MPC8572_E, Version: 2.2, (0x80E80022) CORE: E500, Version: 3.0, (0x80210030) CPU:1500MHz, CCB:600MHz, DDR:

Re: What routers do folks use these days?

2013-11-28 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Nov 29, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Jawaid Desktop wrote: > Our backbone needs in the next 2-3 years are going to be sub-100Gbps. Make sure you get something that, unlike the pre-Sup2T 6500/7600, has operationally useful NetFlow, ACLs, and uRPF. -

Re: What routers do folks use these days?

2013-11-28 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Jawaid Desktop wrote: What do people use these days? Our backbone needs in the next 2-3 years are going to be sub-100Gbps. Cisco ASR 9000, Juniper MX, Huawei NE40E, Alcatel-Lucent 7750, those kinds of routers are the ones I hear people using. Some go for the new Sup2T for

Re: What routers do folks use these days?

2013-11-28 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Look at Juniper, MX Series. mehmet On Nov 28, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Jawaid Desktop wrote: > We're a service provider, and we have a network full of Cat6509's. We are > finding that we are outgrowing them from the standpoint of their ability to > handle lots of large routing tables. Obviously thei

What routers do folks use these days?

2013-11-28 Thread Jawaid Desktop
We're a service provider, and we have a network full of Cat6509's. We are finding that we are outgrowing them from the standpoint of their ability to handle lots of large routing tables. Obviously their switching capability is still superb but one of them with 20 peers is starting to groan a bi

Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-11-28 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013, Mark Andrews wrote: You can hand out /48 as easily with 6rd as you can natively. It's only when the ISP is lazy and encodes the entire IPv4 address space into 6rd thereby wasting most of the IPv6 address space being used for 6rd that a /60 appears to be generous. You're c

Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-11-28 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , "Constantine A. Murenin" writes: > On 28 November 2013 14:56, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > > In message > > > > , "Constantine A. Murenin" writes: > >> On 28 November 2013 13:07, Leo Vegoda wrote: > >> > Andrew D Kirch wrote: > >> > > >> > Was I the only one who thought that everyt

Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-11-28 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 28 November 2013 14:56, Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message > > , "Constantine A. Murenin" writes: >> On 28 November 2013 13:07, Leo Vegoda wrote: >> > Andrew D Kirch wrote: >> > >> > Was I the only one who thought that everything about this was great >> > apart from this comment: >> > >> >>

Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-11-28 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , "Constantine A. Murenin" writes: > On 28 November 2013 13:07, Leo Vegoda wrote: > > Andrew D Kirch wrote: > > > > Was I the only one who thought that everything about this was great > > apart from this comment: > > > >> In reality additional poking leads me to believe AT&T gives you

Re: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-11-28 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 28 November 2013 13:07, Leo Vegoda wrote: > Andrew D Kirch wrote: > > Was I the only one who thought that everything about this was great > apart from this comment: > >> In reality additional poking leads me to believe AT&T gives you a > rather >> generous /60 > > Is a /60 what is considered ge

RE: AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO

2013-11-28 Thread Leo Vegoda
Andrew D Kirch wrote: Was I the only one who thought that everything about this was great apart from this comment: > In reality additional poking leads me to believe AT&T gives you a rather > generous /60 Is a /60 what is considered generous these days? I thought a /48 was considered normal and