Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-20 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 07:33:19PM -0700, Chris Costa wrote: > What are the opinions/views on attenuating short, 1310nm LR cross-connects. > Assume < 20m cable length and utilizing the same vendor optics on each > side of the link. Considering the LR transmit spec doesn't ex

Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-20 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects? Date: Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 07:21:42AM +0200 Quoting Måns Nilsson (mansa...@besserwisser.org): > Subject: Pad 1310nm cross-connects? Date: Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 07:33:19PM > -0700 Quoting Chris Costa (ccosta92...@gmail.com): > > What are the opinions/views on

Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-20 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013, joel jaeggli wrote: It's a pretty normal situation. even with a 1-2m jumper I see light levels that are well below the maximum rx levels for 10km optics. e.g. the max might be .5 and the actual readings are -1.4 - -2.7. our WDM terminals sit in the the adjacent racks to

Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-20 Thread joel jaeggli
It's a pretty normal situation. even with a 1-2m jumper I see light levels that are well below the maximum rx levels for 10km optics. e.g. the max might be .5 and the actual readings are -1.4 - -2.7. our WDM terminals sit in the the adjacent racks to the pop routers so they're all like that.

Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-20 Thread Eric Litvin
Hi Chris, I'm with an optics vendor, Luma optics. All our optics are field programmable to work in any intended network environment. Regarding your question, its unnecessary to pad a 10km LR, even with such a short reach ( 20m) . If it were an ER or ZR, it would be a different story. Good lu

Re: abha ahuja

2013-10-20 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 10/20/2013 12:18 PM, Marco Davids wrote: Op 20-10-13 00:36, Randy Bush schreef: abha ahuja, researcher and operator, died this day in 2001 All these dear people that have passed away... Makes you think about your own mortality, doesn't it? And the list isn't going to get shorter, I am afrai

Re: abha ahuja

2013-10-20 Thread Marco Davids
Op 20-10-13 00:36, Randy Bush schreef: > abha ahuja, researcher and operator, died this day in 2001 All these dear people that have passed away... Makes you think about your own mortality, doesn't it? And the list isn't going to get shorter, I am afraid. Kinda depressing... Perhaps we should crea

Re: Fundamental questions of backbone design

2013-10-20 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:43:49 -0700, Matthew Petach said: > Think about it; if network A prepends 10x to network B, and not at all to > network C; but network B is a free peer of mine, and network C is a transit > network I pay money to; following the typical convention of "routes learned > from ne

Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-20 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> LR usually needs padding in that scenario, IMHO. Usually does not. 1G parts are so cheap that measurement, test and the attenuators (unless you are wrapping the fibre round a pencil) will cost more than each device is worth. How many fail? If in doubt check the device spec such as http:

Re: In Over My Head -- What do I need to setup a tiny ISP?

2013-10-20 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Much of the 'new' activity in ISP's is in wireless last mile. WISPA is a trade organization with several mailing lists where the topics you mention are discussed on a regular basis and new ISP questions are not unusual (http://www.wispa.org/mailing-lists). The archives of the general mailing

Re: In Over My Head -- What do I need to setup a tiny ISP?

2013-10-20 Thread Miles Fidelman
Notify Me wrote: That being said, some people who have a lot more faith in my abilities than I do seem to think I am the go-to guy for network information. And they foolishly asked me for assistance in putting together a small ISP network which is supposed to cater for home users inside of a re

Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-20 Thread Sam Roche

Re: In Over My Head -- What do I need to setup a tiny ISP?

2013-10-20 Thread Pedro Cavaca
Given your starting conditions, I'd advise the reading of http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/isps/gr/aapr-cisco_ispe.htm which you can download a free (2001 ed.) copy of from Cisco at ftp://ftp-eng.cisco.com/cons/isp/documents/IOSEssentialsPDF.zip. Probably a little dated and with lots of Cisco sp

Re: abha ahuja

2013-10-20 Thread Greg Shepherd
Deeply missed. I can't believe it's been that long. On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > abha ahuja, researcher and operator, died this day in 2001 at a > tragically early age. if you did not know her, search a bit. > she did a lot, and with an open mind and heart. > > randy >