Re: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering

2013-06-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 17, 2013, at 00:36 , "Otis L. Surratt, Jr." wrote: >> Any idea why more companies don't offer eBGP peering / multi hop >> peering? Its very common for providers to offer single or double hop >> peering, so why not 5 or 10 hops? In many cases people find it logical >> to perform single or d

RE: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering

2013-06-16 Thread Otis L. Surratt, Jr.
-Original Message- From: Michael McConnell [mailto:mich...@winkstreaming.com] Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:40 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering >Any idea why more companies don't offer eBGP peering / multi hop peering? Its very common for pro

RE: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering

2013-06-16 Thread John van Oppen
Perhaps I am missing something from your advantage list, but why would you want to exchange routing information with a network to which you don't have a connection due to a local failure?I think you are attempting to abstract routing from the underlying physical infrastructure a bit too much

Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering

2013-06-16 Thread Michael McConnell
Hello all, Any idea why more companies don't offer eBGP peering / multi hop peering? Its very common for providers to offer single or double hop peering, so why not 5 or 10 hops? In many cases people find it logical to perform single or double hop peering, why is peering any greater always frow

Re: huawei

2013-06-16 Thread Phil Fagan
was this posted using HTTP? On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:34 PM, chris burri wrote: > Concerning covert communications, I have a short story to tell: > > Several years ago, I used to play World of Warcraft. The Game allows for > LUA scripting, and the developers added some limitations as to prevent

Re: huawei

2013-06-16 Thread Warren Bailey
If it was that easy why did the feds come up with that bts spoofed? Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Jay Ashworth Date: 06/16/2013 12:46 PM (GMT-08:00) To: NANOG Subject: Re: huawei - Original Message - > From: "Phil Fagan" > That's a very inter

RE: huawei

2013-06-16 Thread chris burri
Concerning covert communications, I have a short story to tell: Several years ago, I used to play World of Warcraft. The Game allows for LUA scripting, and the developers added some limitations as to prevent bot scripting. One of the limitations was that you could not export data from or import

Re: huawei

2013-06-16 Thread Jazz Kenny
Why is it so difficult? Hiding communications is an intriguing subject - My ears perked up a bit at the Multics remark - Morse is something that probably never would have even crossed my mind. EDIT: Okay, now it's sent to the list. DOHF! On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Jazz Kenny wrote: > Why

Re: huawei

2013-06-16 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Phil Fagan" > That's a very interesting point about the 4G puckdo you mean > modulating > data over side-lobes? To your point, I as a subscriber would have no > way > every knowing that unless of course I hooked up my specanny and > started to > try to de

Re: How ISP's in ARIN region create automatic prefix-filters?

2013-06-16 Thread Martin T
Joe, ok, so in ARIN region there are two separate databases- "ARIN’s Registration database" and "ARIN’s Routing Registry database". If there is a database containing routing policy information in ARIN region as well, then why do you suggest to use RIPE database? I mean shouldn't most ISP's in RIPE

Re: huawei

2013-06-16 Thread Phil Fagan
Jay, That's a very interesting point about the 4G puckdo you mean modulating data over side-lobes? To your point, I as a subscriber would have no way every knowing that unless of course I hooked up my specanny and started to try to decode the sidelobesI imagine most folks don't do that (

Re: Blocking TCP flows?

2013-06-16 Thread Phil Fagan
Eric, I haven't read the full paper yet, however, are you simply acting as a proxy and redirecting based on the secret tag found in the header? What is your expectation for session/second use? I would think you would need to scale largely, however, I don't have a good understanding of how large t