Last mile multihoming

2013-03-24 Thread Charles Wyble
So isnt the most likely interruption to service due to a last mile physical media issue? Or say a regional fiber cut that takes out the towers you can reach and the upstream connection from your cable and telco providers? Imo at the edge, BGP mostly protects you from layer 8 fail (if youve don

Re: Is multihoming hard? [was: DNS amplification]

2013-03-24 Thread Owen DeLong
I assume those people will not bother with any attempt to multihome in any form. They are not, therefore, part of what is being discussed here. Owen On Mar 23, 2013, at 19:47 , Kyle Creyts wrote: > You do realize that there are quite a few people (home broadband > subscribers?) who just "go do

Re: Is multihoming hard? [was: DNS amplification]

2013-03-24 Thread Kyle Creyts
As an under-30, working in the industry, I have to say, when the power goes out at home for a few days, we pull out the camping gear. When our cable-based internet goes out, our life changes hardly at all. We go for a walk, or hike, do the things we would normally. I can imagine that an outage of

Re: Sabey opens Intergate.Manhattan DC

2013-03-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/23/13 11:20 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: 1M sq ft datacenter in former VZN CO at 375 Pearl: http://www.wallstreetandtech.com/it-infrastructure/worlds-largest-high-rise-data-center-ope/240151399 From the story: """ Intergate.Manhattan is not only one of the largest facilities [at 32 stories,

Call for Papers: Energy-Efficient HPC & Communication workshop (E2HPC2) 2013. Deadline: March 29th, 2013

2013-03-24 Thread Javier Garcia Blas
Apologies for multiple posting. = The first Energy-Efficient High Performance Computing & Communication workshop will be co-located with EuroMPI 2013 in Madrid. Energy-awareness is now a main topic for HPC systems. The goal of

Bandwidth.com SIP trunking issue

2013-03-24 Thread Nanog Mailing List
Hello, I am curious if anyone else whom may use Bandwidth.com for their SIP trunks are receiving the "All circuits are busy now" error message today. This just started this morning, and nothing has changed in machine configuration since yesterday (when everything worked correctly). Thanks

Re: Is multihoming hard? [was: DNS amplification]

2013-03-24 Thread John Curran
On Mar 24, 2013, at 12:06 PM, William Herrin wrote: > ... > For most folks under 30 and many who are older, Internet isn't a side > show, it's a way of life. An outage is like a power failure or the car > going kaput: a major disruption to life's flow. Yes, this is increasingly the case (and may

Re: Is multihoming hard? [was: DNS amplification]

2013-03-24 Thread George Herbert
On Mar 23, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Kyle Creyts wrote: > Will they really demand ubiquitous, unabridged connectivity? Let's back up. End users do not as a rule* have persistent inbound connections. If they have DSL and a Cable Modem they can switch manually (or with a little effort automaticall

Re: Is multihoming hard? [was: DNS amplification]

2013-03-24 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Kyle Creyts wrote: > Will they really demand ubiquitous, unabridged connectivity? > > When? When the older generation that considers the Internet a side show dies off. When your grandparents' power went out, they broke out candles and kerosene lamps. When yours

Re: Is multihoming hard? [was: DNS amplification]

2013-03-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/23/13 9:13 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 07:47:12PM -0700, Kyle Creyts wrote: You do realize that there are quite a few people (home broadband subscribers?) who just "go do something else" when their internet goes down, right? [...] Will they really demand ubiquitous, un