Re: BGP RIB Collection

2013-02-26 Thread ポール・ロラン
Hello, On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:24:00 -0500 chip wrote: > I have an application that needs to gather BGP RIB data from the routers > that connect to all of our upstream providers. Basically I need to know > all the routes available from a particular provider. Currently I'm > gathering this dat

Re: NYT covers China cyberthreat

2013-02-26 Thread Adele Thompson
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Kyle Creyts wrote: > I think it is safe to say that finding a foothold inside of the United > States from which to perform/proxy an attack is not the hardest thing > in the world. I don't understand why everyone expects that major > corporations and diligent opera

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 26, 2013, at 8:23 PM, Nathan Anderson wrote: > On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:58 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: > >> In fact, many of the hotels that have solved this intelligently have >> simply >> placed DSLAMs in the phone room and run DSL to each room with >> a

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 26 February 2013 20:03, Jay Ashworth wrote: > Original Message - >> From: "Owen DeLong" > > [ quoting me ] >> > Ironically, I suspect that it's for the same reason that East Germany has >> > right up to the minute telephony services these days, while West German is >> > still sucking

Question about FibroLAN Falcon-x

2013-02-26 Thread Rod James Bio
Hello All! Just a quick question. Anybody here had experience with Falcon-X of Fibrolan? How do you rate itas a MetroE ringswitch? They have a very competitive price and we are now considering using them. P.S. I'm not sure if this kind of questions are allowed to be on this list,

Re: Hotel internet connectivity

2013-02-26 Thread Jeff Kell
On 2/26/2013 11:35 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > I don't spend a lot of time in a lot of hotels, but every hardwire I > have seen with my own personal eyeballs was indeed DSL. Cheers, -- jra Hrmm... Ramada Inn, Okaloosa Island resort outside Fort Walton Beach (kinda your neighborhood Jay) two years

Hotel internet connectivity

2013-02-26 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Nathan Anderson" > > In fact, many of the hotels that have solved this intelligently have > > simply placed DSLAMs in the phone room and run DSL to each room with > > a relatively inexpensive (especially when you buy 500 of them at a > > time) DSL modem in ea

RE: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Nathan Anderson
On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:58 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > In fact, many of the hotels that have solved this intelligently have > simply > placed DSLAMs in the phone room and run DSL to each room with > a relatively inexpensive (especially when you buy 500 of them at a

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Jeff Kell
On 2/26/2013 10:57 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > In fact, many of the hotels that have solved this intelligently have > simply placed DSLAMs in the phone room and run DSL to each room with a > relatively inexpensive (especially when you buy 500 of them at a time) > DSL modem in each room. Some also have

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Jay Ashworth
Original Message - > From: "Owen DeLong" [ quoting me ] > > Ironically, I suspect that it's for the same reason that East Germany has > > right up to the minute telephony services these days, while West German is > > still sucking hind tit: > > > > The big properties are, over all, likel

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 26, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Valdis Kletnieks" > >> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:45:18 -0800, Jeroen van Aart said: >>> Correct, one should not have expectations of fast reliable internet >>> with low latency in a hotel. >> >> The part th

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Warren Bailey
And the fact that a motel 6 is generally owned by a private owner, versus big box chains that are massively corporate. As Internet is free, it's a it a concern to them. The little guy has to Try harder, which leads to generally a better service. >From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first na

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Warren Bailey
Clearly a person making a comment about high speed Internet not being important in hotel rooms has not tried to stream the type of entertainment generally viewed in a hotel room. You view a "movie" that buffers every 10 seconds, it has a fantastic way of killing the moment.. ;) >From my Androi

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 26, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > On 02/09/2013 07:55 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: >> When you are staying at a 3* hotel, should you have no expectations >> that you'll be getting at least a 3Mbps pipe and at least an under >> 100ms average latency, and won't be getting

Re: BGP RIB Collection

2013-02-26 Thread Randy
*received-routes*? If you still enable soft-reconfig-inbound on your routers(customer-facing sessions not withstanding), you most certainly hate your routers more than OP...;-) ./Randy --- On Tue, 2/26/13, Nick Hilliard wrote: > From: Nick Hilliard > Subject: Re: BGP RIB Collection > To: "chi

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Randy
--- On Tue, 2/26/13, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu > Subject: Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network > To: "Jeroen van Aart" > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Date: Tuesday, February 26, 2013, 6:30 PM > On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:45:18 -0800, > Jeroen van Aart said: > > > C

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Valdis Kletnieks" > On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:45:18 -0800, Jeroen van Aart said: > > Correct, one should not have expectations of fast reliable internet > > with low latency in a hotel. > > The part that always puzzled me is why a major high-tier chain like > H

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Jeroen van Aart" > - internet connectivity at a hotel is just another free amenity like > after shyave or a hair net, be glad you can at least check your email > :-) It is like hell. It is very often not one paid, but *unreasonably* expensive ($5-10 a *day*

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:45:18 -0800, Jeroen van Aart said: > Correct, one should not have expectations of fast reliable internet with > low latency in a hotel. The part that always puzzled me is why a major high-tier chain like Hilton can't get it right, but a Motel 6 can... :) pgp_nmdk5jzCn.pgp

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Jeroen van Aart
On 02/09/2013 07:55 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: When you are staying at a 3* hotel, should you have no expectations that you'll be getting at least a 3Mbps pipe and at least an under 100ms average latency, and won't be getting a balancer that would be breaking up your ssh sessions? Correc

Re: BGP RIB Collection

2013-02-26 Thread John Kemp
I'll chime in with what we are doing with quagga and bgpmon. The question though would be for how many peers? If it is for the sake of discussion, less than 20, something like this might work. http://bgpmon.netsec.colostate.edu/download/src/bgpmon-7.2.4.tar.gz http://rmcwic.ucar.edu/sites/defaul

Re: BGP RIB Collection

2013-02-26 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 26/02/2013 17:24, chip wrote: > Currently I'm gathering this data via SNMP. whoa, you must really hate your router to do that to it. > While this works it has its draw backs, it > takes approximately 20 minutes per view, its nowhere near real-time, and > I'm unable to gather information for IP

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Neil Harris
On 26/02/13 17:19, Warren Bailey wrote: Perhaps I don't understand.. Generally in wireless we look at two things; bits to hertz and noise components. If the noise is LESS and the carrier is the same power spectral density, you will have a greater c/n. I've always wondered why wifi didn't imple

Re: Should host/domain names travel over the internet with a trailing dot?

2013-02-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 19:07:20 -0600, Jimmy Hess said: > If the domain in a certificate were not interpreted as a FQDN by the > client, this would mean, that the certificate for > CN=bigbank.example.com > might be used to authenticate a connection to https://bigbank.example.com > which do the l

Re: BGP RIB Collection

2013-02-26 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
Personally, I would just use BGP on a PC to collect this information. Place some import/input policy on your eBGP sessions on your edge routers to add communities to the routes such that you can recognize which peers gave you the route. Then, use an iBGP session to a BIRD or Quagga instance from w

BGP RIB Collection

2013-02-26 Thread chip
Hello all, I have an application that needs to gather BGP RIB data from the routers that connect to all of our upstream providers. Basically I need to know all the routes available from a particular provider. Currently I'm gathering this data via SNMP. While this works it has its draw backs,

Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-26 Thread Warren Bailey
I purchased omni, but it is pretty difficult to get the hang of.. :/ >From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Original message From: Måns Nilsson Date: 02/26/2013 12:01 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Warren Bailey Cc: North American Network Operators Group

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Warren Bailey
Perhaps I don't understand.. Generally in wireless we look at two things; bits to hertz and noise components. If the noise is LESS and the carrier is the same power spectral density, you will have a greater c/n. I've always wondered why wifi didn't implement an array of modcods which can be used

Re: NYT covers China cyberthreat

2013-02-26 Thread Kyle Creyts
I think it is safe to say that finding a foothold inside of the United States from which to perform/proxy an attack is not the hardest thing in the world. I don't understand why everyone expects that major corporations and diligent operators blocking certain countries' prefixes will help. That bein

Re: NYT covers China cyberthreat

2013-02-26 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:47:44AM -0600, Naslund, Steve wrote: [a number of very good points ] Geoblocking, like passive OS fingerprinting (another technique that reduces attack surface as measured along one axis but can be defeated by a reasonably clueful attacker), doesn't really solve problem

Re: 10 Mbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-26 Thread Rob Seastrom
Owen DeLong writes: > N on 5Ghz takes advantage of the increased bandwidth of the 5Ghz > channel where A merely replicated G on 5Ghz for all practical > purposes. You have that backwards, actually, but the legacy support in 802.11g for 802.11b clients does represent a performance hit even in th

Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-26 Thread .
On 25 February 2013 23:22, Michael Hallgren wrote: > Le 25/02/2013 23:15, Warren Bailey a écrit : >> I've seen smart draw. I wish these drawing software companies would port >> their application over to mac.. Every big design guy I know is a mac fanboy, >> Adobe has it figured out but smart draw

Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-26 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Visio-fu Date: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 08:20:34PM + Quoting Warren Bailey (wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com): > All, > > I have been searching our beloved internet endlessly for months on > information regarding Visio technique. Does anyone have a good resource(s) > for advanced