RE: looking for terminology recommendations concerning non-rooted FQDNs

2013-02-23 Thread Keith Medcalf
We can call them "rooted" domain names and "pwned" domain names... --- () ascii ribbon campaign against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Sullivan [mailto:asulli...@dyn.com] > Sent: Saturday, 23 February, 2013 15:15 > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject:

Re: looking for terminology recommendations concerning non-rooted FQDNs

2013-02-23 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:26:58PM -0600, Jimmy Hess wrote: > > No trailing dot allowed; "each domain label starting and ending with > an alphanumerical character"; Note, however, that the URI specification actually contemplates the possibility of the host part being a dom-spec, and the names in

Re: looking for terminology recommendations concerning non-rooted FQDNs

2013-02-23 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <24339470.6878.1361551954109.javamail.r...@benjamin.baylink.com>, Ja y Ashworth writes: > - Original Message - > > From: "Mark Andrews" > > > RFC 952 as modified by RFC 1123 describe the legal syntax of a > > hostname. There is no trailing period. > > May someone create a "co

Re: looking for terminology recommendations concerning non-rooted FQDNs

2013-02-23 Thread Mark Andrews
For what it is worth I argued for removal of support for partially qualified domain names when looking at resolving the issues in RFC 1535. "ndots" was the compromise. I also argued for searches stopping on nodata responses. I felt and continue to feel both of these are security issues. If RFC

Re: looking for terminology recommendations concerning non-rooted FQDNs

2013-02-23 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <30545475.6952.1361592063875.javamail.r...@benjamin.baylink.com>, Ja y Ashworth writes: > - Original Message - > > From: "Cutler James R" > > > A domain name without a terminal dot is a relative domain name. > > -- An application requesting name to address translation gets to

Re: looking for terminology recommendations concerning non-rooted FQDNs

2013-02-23 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <97006e8c-d3bd-4ced-b814-fc880130f...@email.android.com>, Jay Ashwor th writes: > So, should browsers send absolute host names in http/1.1 requests, and should > n't servers strip the trailing dot if they get one? > > I vote No and Yes, resp. Yes. Note that doesn't mean with a traili

Re: looking for terminology recommendations concerning non-rooted FQDNs

2013-02-23 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <2013015502.gd99...@numachi.com>, Brian Reichert writes: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:41:33PM -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote: > > My snap reaction is to say that nothing should ever be *trying* to > > compare a rooted F.Q.D.N. against a certificate; it is, as has been > > noted, merely c