RE: Stuxnet and more

2012-07-26 Thread Richard Golodner
Grant said today: -Original Message- From: Grant Ridder [mailto:shortdudey...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:25 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Stuxnet Hi Everyone, I realize most people already know the history of Stuxnet but i figured i would pass along an IEEE article th

RE: Rate shaping in Active E FTTx networks

2012-07-26 Thread Mark Gauvin
Juniper dynamic application awareness does a decent job and so does the cisco counterpart saves buying more hw From: Erik Muller [er...@buh.org] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:21 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Rate shaping in Active E FTTx networks

Re: Rate shaping in Active E FTTx networks

2012-07-26 Thread Erik Muller
On 7/26/12 12:45 , Jason Lixfeld wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to gauge what operators are doing to handle per-subscriber > Internet access PIR bandwidth in Active E FTTx networks. I presume operators would want to limit the each subscriber to a certain PIR, but within that limit, do things like

Re: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Michael J Wise writ es: > > On Jul 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > In message , Michael J = > Wise writ > > es: > >>=20 > >> On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:35 AM, Lou Katz wrote: > >>=20 > >>> The domain is cookephoto.com > >>=20 > >> Why does mail.metron.com have MX records?

Re: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread Michael J Wise
On Jul 26, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > In message , Michael J Wise > writ > es: >> >> On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:35 AM, Lou Katz wrote: >> >>> The domain is cookephoto.com >> >> Why does mail.metron.com have MX records? > > Why do you care? There is nothing wrong with having explict

Re: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Michael J Wise writ es: > > On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:35 AM, Lou Katz wrote: > > > The domain is cookephoto.com > > Why does mail.metron.com have MX records? Why do you care? There is nothing wrong with having explict MX records and they generally take up less room in a DNS cache the

BGP Update Report

2012-07-26 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 21-Jul-12 -to- 25-Jul-12 (4 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS840231474 1.4% 17.8 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC "Vimpelcom" 2 - AS163730729 1.4

The Cidr Report

2012-07-26 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 27 00:13:01 2012 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: [routing-wg] The Cidr Report

2012-07-26 Thread Geoff Huston

Rate shaping in Active E FTTx networks

2012-07-26 Thread Jason Lixfeld
Hi all, I'm trying to gauge what operators are doing to handle per-subscriber Internet access PIR bandwidth in Active E FTTx networks. I presume operators would want to limit the each subscriber to a certain PIR, but within that limit, do things like perform preferential treatment of interac

Re: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread Lou Katz
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 09:05:55AM -0500, Ryan Rawdon wrote: > > On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:14 AM, Lou Katz wrote: > > > One of my users has reported incoming mail failures, which I finally > > tracked down. It turned out that Hotmail has seen fit to send the mail > > to his domain's A record machine,

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-26 Thread Jason Hellenthal
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 04:48:48AM +, Tina TSOU wrote: > Do u mean I am a cow? I stop breast feeding this year. > > Tina ROGFLOL This is the best thing I have read yet this morning. Thanks for the laugh. > > On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:47 PM, "Randy Bush" wrote: > > >> I'm responsible for IPv6

RE: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread George Bonser
> From: Ryan Rawdon > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 7:06 AM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records? > No solution to the issue was found in the various forks of that thread, > however one individual afflicted by this issue (the OP) seems to have > res

Re: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread Ryan Rawdon
On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:21 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > If the MX records are not responsive / timing out, they might be falling > back to the A record. > Per RFC2821 (and later RFC5321): If one or more MX RRs are found for a given name, SMTP systems MUST NOT utilize any address RR

Re: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread Ryan Rawdon
On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:14 AM, Lou Katz wrote: > One of my users has reported incoming mail failures, which I finally > tracked down. It turned out that Hotmail has seen fit to send the mail > to his domain's A record machine, despite the fact that he has valid MX > records. > > The A record poin

Re: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread Michael J Wise
On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:35 AM, Lou Katz wrote: > The domain is cookephoto.com Why does mail.metron.com have MX records? And they're different. $ host cookephoto.com cookephoto.com has address 192.160.193.89 cookephoto.com mail is handled by 10 mail.metron.com. cook

Re: Weekly Routing Table Report

2012-07-26 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:16 PM, Geoff Huston wrote: > > On 21/07/2012, at 6:40 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: > >> >> On Jul 20, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Ron Broersma wrote: >> >>> >>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 1:04 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 05:10:41 +1000, Routing Analysis Role

Re: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread Mark Foster
On 26/07/12 20:35, Lou Katz wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 02:38:31AM -0500, Jimmy Hess wrote: >> On 7/26/12, Lou Katz wrote: >>> One of my users has reported incoming mail failures, which I finally >>> tracked down. It turned out that Hotmail has seen fit to send the mail >>> to his domain's A

Re: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread Lou Katz
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 02:38:31AM -0500, Jimmy Hess wrote: > On 7/26/12, Lou Katz wrote: > > One of my users has reported incoming mail failures, which I finally > > tracked down. It turned out that Hotmail has seen fit to send the mail > > to his domain's A record machine, despite the fact that

Re: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 7/26/12, Lou Katz wrote: > One of my users has reported incoming mail failures, which I finally > tracked down. It turned out that Hotmail has seen fit to send the mail > to his domain's A record machine, despite the fact that he has valid MX > records. You looked in the mail headers and saw h

Re: Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
If the MX records are not responsive / timing out, they might be falling back to the A record. On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Lou Katz wrote: > One of my users has reported incoming mail failures, which I finally > tracked down. It turned out that Hotmail has seen fit to send the mail > to hi

Is Hotmail in the habit of ignoring MX records?

2012-07-26 Thread Lou Katz
One of my users has reported incoming mail failures, which I finally tracked down. It turned out that Hotmail has seen fit to send the mail to his domain's A record machine, despite the fact that he has valid MX records. The A record points to my webserver, which does not normally accept mail for