Re: HE.net BGP origin attribute rewriting

2012-06-01 Thread Joe Provo
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 08:03:50PM +0200, Daniel Suchy wrote: > On 06/01/2012 07:38 PM, Joe Provo wrote: > > You clearly did not read the previous posts involving actual historical > > evidence [and apparently ongoing] of remote networks attempting action > > at a distance knowing that many overl

Re: HE.net BGP origin attribute rewriting

2012-06-01 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 08:03:50PM +0200, Daniel Suchy wrote: > > By overwriting origin field, there's no warranty that someone improves > performance at all - it's just imagination. In extreme cases, > performance can be degraded when someone in the middle plays with > origin field and doesn't

The Cidr Report

2012-06-01 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jun 1 21:12:54 2012 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

BGP Update Report

2012-06-01 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 24-May-12 -to- 31-May-12 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS383192192 8.5%1779.6 -- AFCONC-BLOCK1-AS - 754th Electronic Systems Group 2 - AS845

NYC World IPv6 Launch event

2012-06-01 Thread Joly MacFie
As for IPv6 Day last year, when it went amazingly well, ISOC-NY is organizing a chat + booze-up to mark the IPv6 Launch next Wednesday Jun 6 2012. Hopefully by 7pm initial kinks will have been well ironed out and everyone will be free to attend.. *What*: World IPv6 Launch Discussion and Celebratio

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2012-06-01 Thread Jim Burwell
On 6/1/2012 12:21, Jared Mauch wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:06:24AM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote: >> On 6/1/12 7:04 AM, Brzozowski, John wrote: >>> Jimmy, >>> >>> Trust me, I work for Comcast and run the IPv6 program. This has been the >>> case for nearly 7 years. We can take some of the ite

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2012-06-01 Thread Jim Burwell
On 6/1/2012 11:06, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 6/1/12 7:04 AM, Brzozowski, John wrote: >> Jimmy, >> >> Trust me, I work for Comcast and run the IPv6 program. This has been the >> case for nearly 7 years. We can take some of the items below off list. >> >> We have launched IPv6 for residential broad

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2012-06-01 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 11:06:24AM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 6/1/12 7:04 AM, Brzozowski, John wrote: > > Jimmy, > > > > Trust me, I work for Comcast and run the IPv6 program. This has been the > > case for nearly 7 years. We can take some of the items below off list. > > > > We have laun

Re: rpki vs. secure dns?

2012-06-01 Thread Rob Austein
Another difference between RPKI and ROVER which hasn't come up much: RPKI incorporates a lot of pre-existing machinery from X.509 et al. This drags in some tedious detail which makes people's eyes cross, but it gives us some tools which simply aren't available in DNS at present. In particular, X.

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2012-06-01 Thread Rusty Dekema
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > Forgive me if this is a stupid question since I've never been a cable > guy, but what's physical difference between residential and commercial > coax? > Not much, as far as I can tell. I'm a commercial ("Business Class" in Comcast's terminol

Re: 1310nm optics over Corning LEAF G.655?

2012-06-01 Thread Tim Durack
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Kevin L. Karch wrote: > Tim > > Yes we have built several links with the 1310nm devices on Corning LEAF. One > span distance was 14 KM. > > Can we offer you a quote on optics and installation support? That's a kind offer, but we are quite well setup :-) Just lookin

RE: 1310nm optics over Corning LEAF G.655?

2012-06-01 Thread Kevin L. Karch
Tim Yes we have built several links with the 1310nm devices on Corning LEAF. One span distance was 14 KM. Can we offer you a quote on optics and installation support? Thanks, Kevin L. Karch Network Specialist Direct: 847-833-8810 Fax: 847-985-5550 Email: kevinka...@vackinc.com Web: www.vackin

1310nm optics over Corning LEAF G.655?

2012-06-01 Thread Tim Durack
Anyone run 1000BASE-LX/10GBASE-LR 1310nm optics over a ~10km Corning LEAF G.655 span? I understand this fiber is not optimized for such usage, but what is the real-world behaviour? I'm having a hard time finding hard data. (Normal optics will be 1550nm and DWDM over ~40-100km spans.) -- Tim:>

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2012-06-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/1/12 7:04 AM, Brzozowski, John wrote: > Jimmy, > > Trust me, I work for Comcast and run the IPv6 program. This has been the > case for nearly 7 years. We can take some of the items below off list. > > We have launched IPv6 for residential broadband at this time. Commercial > DOCSIS suppor

Re: HE.net BGP origin attribute rewriting

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Suchy
On 06/01/2012 07:38 PM, Joe Provo wrote: > You clearly did not read the previous posts involving actual historical > evidence [and apparently ongoing] of remote networks attempting action > at a distance knowing that many overlook this part of the decision tree. > Preventing your company from ble

Re: HE.net BGP origin attribute rewriting

2012-06-01 Thread Joe Provo
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 10:19:16AM +0200, Daniel Suchy wrote: > On 05/31/2012 07:06 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: > > On (2012-05-31 08:46 -0700), David Barak wrote: > > > >> On what precisely do you base the idea that a mandatory > >> transitive attribute of a BGP prefix is a "purely advisory flag > >> wh

Number of providers

2012-06-01 Thread Matthew Luckie
Based on feedback we have received at http://as-rank.caida.org/ we are in the process of updating our AS relationship inference algorithm. We're interested to know how many providers different ASes have based on their size. We assume that it changes with size of the AS, e.g. Tier-1 have zero.

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2012-06-01 Thread Brzozowski, John
Commercial DOCSIS is later this year. Commercial fiber can be supported now. John = John Jason Brzozowski Comcast Cable m) +1-609-377-6594 e) mailto:john_brzozow...@cable.comcast.com o) +1-484-962-0060 w) http://www.comcast6.net

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2012-06-01 Thread Brzozowski, John
Jimmy, Trust me, I work for Comcast and run the IPv6 program. This has been the case for nearly 7 years. We can take some of the items below off list. We have launched IPv6 for residential broadband at this time. Commercial DOCSIS support is later this year. We can do two things. Get you a r

Re: BGP ORF in practice

2012-06-01 Thread Wayne Tucker
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Rob Shakir wrote: > It has some potential to be difficult to manage where implementations > begin to experience complexities in building UPDATE message replication > groups (where peers have a dynamic advertisement (egress) policy due to ORF, > then this may mean

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2012-06-01 Thread Jared Mauch
My understanding is that Comcast only does IPv6 on business customers that are on their "backbone" network, not those on their docsis network. If you have BGP or fiber with 7922 you should be able to get IPv6. - Jared On Jun 1, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Jimmy Sadri wrote: > Wow... I just wanted some i

RE: Comcast IPv6 Update

2012-06-01 Thread Jimmy Sadri
Jason, I remembered this post and decided to check on the status of this for World Ipv6 day coming up in on the 5th of this month and so I called Comcast bussiness support... what a nightmare... the first guy told me that I already have static IP address so why do I need Ipv6 addresses? The

Re: Wacky Weekend: The '.secure' gTLD

2012-06-01 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
On 5/31/12 10:52 PM, John Levine wrote: >> What will drive the price up is the lawsuits that come out of the >> >woodwork when they start trying to enforce their provisions. "What? I >> >have already printed my letterhead! What do you mean my busted DKIM >> >service is a problem?" > History suggest

Accuracy of RFCs (was: Re: HE.net BGP origin attribute rewriting)

2012-06-01 Thread John Curran
On Jun 1, 2012, at 4:28 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > It's extremely hard to find RFC which does not contain incorrect > information or practically undeployable data. Actual errors in RFC's (typos, incorrect references, etc.) - Differing views regarding RFC subje

Re: The Tubes

2012-06-01 Thread chris
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Re: HE.net BGP origin attribute rewriting

2012-06-01 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-06-01 10:19 +0200), Daniel Suchy wrote: > I think RFC 4271 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4271) is very clear > here. Back to the standard, why condone it's violation? Yes, statement It's extremely hard to find RFC which does not contain incorrect information or practically undeployable

Re: HE.net BGP origin attribute rewriting

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Suchy
On 05/31/2012 07:06 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: > On (2012-05-31 08:46 -0700), David Barak wrote: > >> On what precisely do you base the idea that a mandatory transitive attribute >> of a BGP prefix is a "purely advisory flag which has no real meaning"? I >> encourage you to reconsider that opinion -