Re: Paypal outage?

2012-01-28 Thread Mark Tinka
On Sunday, January 29, 2012 03:09:10 AM Chris wrote: > I switched browsers and it seemed to clear it up. Just > never seen an odd error like that before.. Tried emptying your browser cache and limiting how much it grows over time? This helped solve a similar issue when my browser assumed my ban

MPLS Traffic Engineering Help

2012-01-28 Thread Jeremy
Hi Everyone, I could use a little help on MPLS and Traffic Engineering. Right now I'm just trying to wrap my head around it. I currently have a couple tunnels going in either direction, those are working fine (but certainly took me long enough to get them working!) and I can direct traffic over the

Re: US DOJ victim letter

2012-01-28 Thread Ryan Gelobter
The e-mail states it was sent to the specific e-mail address because it was listed as the contact in WHOIS. Although you can opt-out from these notices I believe as part of the DNS Changer case the court ordered the FBI to notify ISPs. On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:39 AM, John Peach wrote: > On Sat,

Re: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread J. M. D. Patterson, CEO
Ahem: "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a carrier pidgeon with a 4GB USB stick" http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8248056.stm John Patterson a.k.a "InetDaemon" -Original Message- Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:35:59 -0500 From: Lamar Owen To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: XBOX 720: possible d

Re: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread Pete Carah
On 01/28/2012 12:01 PM, Josh Hoppes wrote: > ... > There is also the system > Blizzard is using for World of Warcraft where the game can stream > content down while playing. Most of these publishers/developers > already have pretty good grasps on what capabilities are at their > disposal thanks to

Re: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread Josh Hoppes
I've seen this discussion show up in a number of venues lately. I'm not at all surprised about the trend as I've been using Steam for a few years now. I expect they will take a similar path and continue to sell physical medium with keys to tie the game to an account, and do staged downloads using e

Re: Fiber outage in Miami

2012-01-28 Thread Jason LeBlanc
We got the same RFO. BS. On 01/28/2012 01:36 PM, Randy Epstein wrote: Anyone has seen on gotten a RFA or a deeper explanation of what happened from them ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet& Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email

Re: Paypal outage?

2012-01-28 Thread Chris
I switched browsers and it seemed to clear it up. Just never seen an odd error like that before..

Re: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/27/12 02:35 , Tei wrote: > Can internet in USA support that? Call of Duty 15 releases may 2014 > and 30 million gamers start downloading a 20 GB files. Would the > internet collapse like a house of cards?. Given the way the these things are staged, the pre-order/pre-load model works pretty

Re: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/27/12 06:13 , Eric Tykwinski wrote: > The PS Vita still uses a proprietary memory card format, so it's not just > download only. > The best example of download only would be OnLive, which basically is a game > system that only delivers on demand games. Onlive isn't download at all. the games

RE: Craigslist outage

2012-01-28 Thread Frank Bulk
Much documented here: http://forums.verizon.com/t5/FiOS-Internet/DNS-issues-in-SoCal/td-p/393781 The thread is titled "DNS", but just ignore and read through. I don't understand how Verizon FiOS hasn't resolved this after two weeks. Frank -Original Message- From: Matthew Black [mailto:m

Re: Fiber outage in Miami

2012-01-28 Thread Randy Epstein
> >Anyone has seen on gotten a RFA or a deeper explanation of what >happened from them ? > > >Faisal Imtiaz >Snappy Internet& Telecom >7266 SW 48 Street >Miami, Fl 33155 >Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net Yes. They blamed/burned the local cre

Re: Fiber outage in Miami

2012-01-28 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
ohh.. - They wanted to perform the same maintenance again this weekend. - This is new news to us ok, then it makes sense Anyone has seen on gotten a RFA or a deeper explanation of what happened from them ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet&

RE: Paypal outage?

2012-01-28 Thread Blake Pfankuch
Seems to be working for me now. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:cal...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:11 AM To: NANOG list Subject: Paypal outage? Anyone getting a 400 Bad Request from Paypal when you try to login to your account or make a transaction? -- --C "T

Re: Fiber outage in Miami

2012-01-28 Thread Randy Epstein
> > > >On 1/28/12 1:07 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > >>hmm... an what exactly does this accomplish ? >> >>Faisal Imtiaz >>Snappy Internet& Telecom > >It forces Fiberlight to follow a procedure that was outlined in the TRO >filing. Yes, a maintenance procedure. Oh, maybe you weren't aware. The m

Paypal outage?

2012-01-28 Thread Chris
Anyone getting a 400 Bad Request from Paypal when you try to login to your account or make a transaction? -- --C "The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them." - Sir William Clayton

Re: Fiber outage in Miami

2012-01-28 Thread Randy Epstein
On 1/28/12 1:07 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: >hmm... an what exactly does this accomplish ? > >Faisal Imtiaz >Snappy Internet& Telecom It forces Fiberlight to follow a procedure that was outlined in the TRO filing. Yes, a maintenance procedure.

Re: Fiber outage in Miami

2012-01-28 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
hmm... an what exactly does this accomplish ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet& Telecom On 1/28/2012 12:52 PM, Randy Epstein wrote: On 1/23/12 3:57 PM, "Jason LeBlanc" wrote: We are still impacted from what I understand. On 01/23/2012 10:02 AM, Jimmy Changa wrote: Was anyone impacted by a

Re: Fiber outage in Miami

2012-01-28 Thread Randy Epstein
On 1/23/12 3:57 PM, "Jason LeBlanc" wrote: >We are still impacted from what I understand. > >On 01/23/2012 10:02 AM, Jimmy Changa wrote: >> Was anyone impacted by a botched fiber move in Miami this weekend? I >>lost 2 pieces of dark fiber for over almost 24 hours due to a fiber move >>being per

RE: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
> Now if RFC1149 supported jumbo frames, it might give tin-cans-and-string a > run for its money It's a simple matter of weight ratios. A 5 oz bird cannot carry a 9000 mtu coconut.

Re: US DOJ victim letter

2012-01-28 Thread John Peach
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:30:47 + bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:20:08PM -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Randy Epstein > > wrote: > > > [snip] > I missed the part where ARIN turned over its address database w/ > associ

Re: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, January 27, 2012 05:56:19 AM Randy Bush wrote: > > Can internet in USA support that? Call of Duty 15 releases may 2014 > > and 30 million gamers start downloading a 20 GB files. Would the > > internet collapse like a house of cards?. > not a problem. the vast majority of the states

Re: US DOJ victim letter

2012-01-28 Thread bmanning
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:20:08PM -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Randy Epstein wrote: > > > > > > On 1/27/12 1:23 PM, "valdis.kletni...@vt.edu" > > wrote: > > > >>On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:16:27 EST, Bryan Horstmann-Allen said: > >> > >>> Bit odd, if it's a phish.

Re: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread Mark Tinka
On Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:39:21 PM Roland Perry wrote: > When did you last see a Windows or Office update > available on disc? In my experience (especially in places where Internet access to the home is "tight" or non-existent), Windows and Office is normally used in the office, where I

Re: BDP discussion pointers: was: Re pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton))

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Gettys
On 01/28/2012 10:28 AM, Jim Gettys wrote: > On 01/27/2012 08:31 PM, Randy Bush wrote: for those who say bufferbloat is a problem, do you have wred enabled on backbone or customer links? >>> For *most backbone networks* it is a no-op on the backbone. To be >>> more precise, if the backbon

Re: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread Roland Perry
In article <201201282306.00569.mti...@globaltransit.net>, Mark Tinka writes Then, of course, there are those who might not be in a position to get any kind of Internet access to their consoles. This isn't such a terrible thing if games are released both on digital and hard copies, but it's quite

BDP discussion pointers: was: Re pontification bloat (was 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton))

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Gettys
On 01/27/2012 08:31 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> for those who say bufferbloat is a problem, do you have wred enabled >>> on backbone or customer links? >> For *most backbone networks* it is a no-op on the backbone. To be >> more precise, if the backbone is at least 10x, and preferably more >> like 5

Re: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread Mark Tinka
On Saturday, January 28, 2012 09:11:24 PM Roland Perry wrote: > So does Microsoft Office (if you can call that a game). So does Mac OS X Lion (exclusively, more so). But I guess the trend the OP was raising was this distribution method shifting for console games. As many have already mentione

Re: XBOX 720: possible digital download mass service.

2012-01-28 Thread Roland Perry
In article <201201281518.47292.mti...@globaltransit.net>, Mark Tinka writes Needless to say, a lot of games are now pushing massive updates via the Internet; on the order of hundreds of MB. So does Microsoft Office (if you can call that a game). -- Roland Perry

Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)

2012-01-28 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-01-28 21:53 +0900), Masataka Ohta wrote: > 1.5MB @ 100Mbps is 120ms, which is prohibitively lengthy > even as BE. > > The solution is to have less number of classes. The solution is to per class define max queue size, so user with fewer queues configured will not use all available buff

Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)

2012-01-28 Thread Masataka Ohta
Saku Ytti wrote: >>> And if switch does support QoS but operator configures only BE, and >>> operator does not limit BE queue size, operator will see buffer bloat, >> >> 1.5MB @ 10Gbps is only 1.2ms, which is not buffer bloat. > > You can't buffer these in ingress or you risk HOLB issue, you must

Re: photonic buffer bloat

2012-01-28 Thread Masataka Ohta
Eugen Leitl wrote: > In future photonic networks (which will do relativistic cut-through > directly in a photonic crossbar without converting photons to electrons > and back) the fiber is not just a transport channel but also a photonic > buffer Yes. > (e.g. at 10 GBit/s Ethernet a short reach f

Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)

2012-01-28 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-01-28 21:06 +0900), Masataka Ohta wrote: > The required amount of memory is merely 150KB. Assuming we don't support jumbo frames and switch cannot queue sub packet sizes (normally they can't but VXR at least has 512B cell concept, so tx-ring is packet size agnostic, but this is just PA-A

Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)

2012-01-28 Thread Masataka Ohta
Saku Ytti wrote: > No, you're not crazy. If your core is higher rate than your customer, then > you need at minimum serialization delay difference of buffering. > If core is 10G and access 100M, you need buffer for minimum of 100 packets, > to handle the single 10G incoming, without any extra buff

photonic buffer bloat

2012-01-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
In future photonic networks (which will do relativistic cut-through directly in a photonic crossbar without converting photons to electrons and back) the fiber is not just a transport channel but also a photonic buffer (e.g. at 10 GBit/s Ethernet a short reach fiber already buffers a standard

Re: Craigslist outage

2012-01-28 Thread Henry Yen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 09:59:44AM +, Matthew Black wrote: > Confirmed that it's Verizon FIOS. I remote logged into a system at work > and had no trouble. FiOS connection from here to losangeles.craigslist.org works. > What does nslookup return for you? I get > losangeles.craigslist.org > 208

Re: 10GE TOR port buffers (was Re: 10G switch recommendaton)

2012-01-28 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-01-27 22:40 +0100), bas wrote: > But do you generally agree that "the market" has a requirement for a > deep-buffer TOR switch? > > Or am I crazy for thinking that my customers need such a solution? No, you're not crazy. If your core is higher rate than your customer, then you need at m

RE: Craigslist outage

2012-01-28 Thread Matthew Black
Confirmed that it's Verizon FIOS. I remote logged into a system at work and had no trouble. I'm dealing with tech support person that says "nobody blocks websites or changes routing tables." Big sigh. Tech trying to get a supervisor and just came back with "he has another customer with the sa

RE: Craigslist outage

2012-01-28 Thread Matthew Black
IE diagnose connection problem suggests a firewall issue. matthew black information technology services california state university, long beach -Original Message- From: Matthew Black [mailto:matthew.bl...@csulb.edu] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:32 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subj

RE: Craigslist outage

2012-01-28 Thread Matthew Black
Kind of supports my suspicion that a caching center (like Akamai) has gone down. What does nslookup return for you? I get losangeles.craigslist.org 208.82.238.129 DOS tracert finds that IP in 9 hops (20ms, 19ms, 19ms). Possible routing problems for http traffic with Verizon FIOS? The about pag

Re: Craigslist outage

2012-01-28 Thread Henry Yen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 09:14:52AM +, Matthew Black wrote: > It looks like www.craigslist.org redirects to the nearest geographical > craigslist site. Mine redirects to losangeles.craigslist.org, which is > down. losangeles.craigslist.org is working from here (Long Island, NY). -- Henry Yen

RE: Craigslist outage

2012-01-28 Thread Matthew Black
Thanks everyone for the updates. It looks like www.craigslist.org redirects to the nearest geographical craigslist site. Mine redirects to losangeles.craigslist.org, which is down. Is it possible that some high-volume internet caching centers have gone down? matthew black information technology

Re: Craigslist outage

2012-01-28 Thread Henry Yen
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 08:56:31AM +, Matthew Black wrote: > Accessing from Southern California. > > Cannot get any pages to view, except a few "about" pages. > http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/system-status.html > > Status says runs good, but cannot pull up any city sites or the basic ho

RE: Craigslist outage

2012-01-28 Thread Matthew Black
www.craigslist.org, losangeles.craigslist.org and sfo.craigslist.org all ail. matthew black information technology services california state university, long beach 562-985-5144 -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dav...@mckendrick.ca] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:02 AM To: Matt

Re: Craigslist outage

2012-01-28 Thread David
Chicago loads, San Diego doesn't. Interesting. On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 08:56 +, Matthew Black wrote: > Accessing from Southern California. > > Cannot get any pages to view, except a few "about" pages. > http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/system-status.html > > Status says runs good, but cann

Craigslist outage

2012-01-28 Thread Matthew Black
Accessing from Southern California. Cannot get any pages to view, except a few "about" pages. http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/system-status.html Status says runs good, but cannot pull up any city sites or the basic home page http://www.craigslist.org. Anyone else having trouble or are you