Re: Errant Advertisement - 128.1/16

2011-08-06 Thread IT 8844
Did you fix it? My traceroute shows last hop is 64.119.128.44. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Rick Altmann wrote: > Is there anyone from AT&T on the list that could help with a likely > misconfiguration?  I have not received any response yet to my complaint (see > below) submitted to the abus

Re: STRIKE: VZN

2011-08-06 Thread Zaid Ali
I heard a few days ago this might happen through another carrier who depends on a local loop from VZ. If you are waiting on circuit installs or someone has to swap out an NI card this may impact you. Thanks for the link. Zaid Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2011, at 10:14 PM, Jay Ashworth wro

STRIKE: VZN

2011-08-06 Thread Jay Ashworth
As of midnight, 45,000 IBEW and CWA members are striking Verizon, as their contract has expired. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/07/us-verizon-labor-idUSTRE7760C320110807 It's not clear how this might affect what we do, but it might, and I figured the heads up would probably be useful. C

Re: AT&T -> Qwest ... Localpref issue?

2011-08-06 Thread PC
Qwest uses 80 for peers; 100 for customers. As I'm sure Qwest had AT&T as a peer prior to today (and you tagged as a customer), it probably should have been 80 since the beginning. What was the local pref to AT&T before? Maybe they found a misconfiguration on a router. If your only objective is

Re: US internet providers hijacking users' search queries

2011-08-06 Thread Damian Menscher
I can confirm the report is about DNS providers that are doing hijacking by sending the traffic through dedicated proxies, either in the ISP's network or in the DNS provider's network. If you didn't see this happening, it might be because you were testing on www.google.com rather than on Yahoo or

AT&T -> Qwest ... Localpref issue?

2011-08-06 Thread Graham Wooden
Hi folks, Anyone else noticed a localpref change on Qwest network in regards to AT&T prefixes? I noticed my AT&T assigned prefixes dropping to 80, causing my backup transit peering with Centurylink to take preference with Qwest originators ... All was working fine with my prepends .. But not any

Re: US internet providers hijacking users' search queries

2011-08-06 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Owen DeLong write s: > On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > >=20 > > In message <4e3c9228.4050...@paulgraydon.co.uk>, Paul Graydon writes: > >> On 08/05/2011 02:53 PM, Brielle wrote: > >>> Until they start MitM the ssl traffic, fake certs and all. Didn't a = > certai

Re: US internet providers hijacking users' search queries

2011-08-06 Thread Scott Helms
Not trying to be obtuse, but none of the technical docs you cite appear to talk about HTTP proxies nor does the newswire report have any technical details. I have tested several of the networks listed in the report and in none of the cases I saw was there HTTP proxy activity. Picking up on WC

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 6, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: > On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> On Aug 6, 2011, at 3:15 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: >>> Note that in this thread, you advocate three things that are a little >>> tough to make work together: >>> * hierarchical addressing plan /

Corporation for Sale with IPv4 Assets

2011-08-06 Thread IPv4 Brokers
North American Corporation (domiciled in Nevada) is for sale. All non-IPv4 assets and debts (and other liabilities) have been transferred to another related corporation. IPv4 Assets include: 1 - ASN; and 3 - /20 networks (12,288 IP Addresses) direct allocations (non-legacy). Multiple options ava

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > On Aug 6, 2011, at 3:15 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: >> Note that in this thread, you advocate three things that are a little >> tough to make work together: >> * hierarchical addressing plan / routing >> * nibble-aligned addressing plan >> * minimu

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 6, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM, William Herrin wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Brian Mengel wrote: >> > > >> On the flip side, /56 allows for 16M end-users in your /32 ISP >> allocation. After which you can trivially get as many

Re: US internet providers hijacking users' search queries

2011-08-06 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 8/6/11 11:08 AM, Joe Provo wrote: Belief has nothing to do with it. The article is vaguely referring to 'search' and incorrectly jumps to https. Disappointing that nanog readers can't readhttp://www.paxfire.com/faqs.php and get a clue, instead all the mouth-flapping about MItM and https. Whil

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM, William Herrin wrote: > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Brian Mengel wrote: > > On the flip side, /56 allows for 16M end-users in your /32 ISP > allocation. After which you can trivially get as many additional /32's > as you want. Is there any reason you want t

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Brian Mengel wrote: > In reviewing IPv6 end user allocation policies, I can find little > agreement on what prefix length is appropriate for residential end > users.  /64 and /56 seem to be the favorite candidates, with /56 being > slightly preferred. Hi Brian, /

Re: US internet providers hijacking users' search queries

2011-08-06 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Joe Provo wrote: > On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 10:41:10AM -0400, Scott Helms wrote: > > Correct, I don't believe that any of the providers noted are actually > [snip] > Disappointing that nanog readers can't read > http://www.paxfire.com/faqs.php and get a clue, ins

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Aug 5, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: > Let's clarify -- /48 is much preferred by Owen, It's is also supported by RIR policy, and the RFC series. It would unfair to characterize owen as the only holder of that preference. > but most ISPs seem to be > zeroing in on a /56 for production.

Re: US internet providers hijacking users' search queries

2011-08-06 Thread Joe Provo
On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 10:41:10AM -0400, Scott Helms wrote: > Correct, I don't believe that any of the providers noted are actually [snip] Belief has nothing to do with it. The article is vaguely referring to 'search' and incorrectly jumps to https. Disappointing that nanog readers can't read h

Re: US internet providers hijacking users' search queries

2011-08-06 Thread Owen DeLong
I prefer running my own resolver. It's pretty trivial to do on a Mac and I would tend to think wouldn't be all that hard on Windows, though I have no idea. A resolver doesn't get much more local than ::1/128. Owen On Aug 6, 2011, at 7:41 AM, Scott Helms wrote: > Correct, I don't believe that a

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 6, 2011, at 3:40 AM, Mukom Akong Tamon wrote: > On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >> For example, if you reserve a /48 per customer but actually use the >> first /56 out of it, you are safe if _you_ need the other /56 for some >> reason, or if the customer needs to expan

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 6, 2011, at 3:15 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: > On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> At least don't make your life miserable by experimenting with too many >>> different assignment sizes, >>> or advocate /64s or something, that's considered a design fault which will >>> com

Re: US internet providers hijacking users' search queries

2011-08-06 Thread Scott Helms
Correct, I don't believe that any of the providers noted are actually hijacking HTTP sessions instead all of these are DNS based tricks. Since the service providers are also providing DNS (via Paxfire and others) users don't have a lot of choice. You can switch to using a known public name se

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Aug 6, 2011 2:11 AM, "Owen DeLong" wrote: > > I'm not the only person who prefers /48 and hopefully most ISPs will eventually > come around and realize that /56s don't really benefit anyone vs. /48s. > > Hurricane Electric has been handing out /48s upon request to our customers and > users of o

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Mukom Akong Tamon
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > For example, if you reserve a /48 per customer but actually use the > first /56 out of it, you are safe if _you_ need the other /56 for some > reason, or if the customer needs to expand into the full /48. +1. Be generous in planning and then a

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> At least don't make your life miserable by experimenting with too many >> different assignment sizes, >> or advocate /64s or something, that's considered a design fault which will >> come back to you some day. >> Read the RfCs and RIR policy

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 6, 2011, at 12:47 AM, Sascha Lenz wrote: > Hi, > > >> Let's clarify -- /48 is much preferred by Owen, but most ISPs seem to be >> zeroing in on a /56 for production. Though some ISPs are using /64 for >> their trials. > > > IIRC, there's RfC6177 - covering almost exactly what the orig

Re: US internet providers hijacking users' search queries

2011-08-06 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message <4e3c9228.4050...@paulgraydon.co.uk>, Paul Graydon writes: >> On 08/05/2011 02:53 PM, Brielle wrote: >>> Until they start MitM the ssl traffic, fake certs and all. Didn't a certai >> n repressive regime already do this tactic with f

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Owen DeLong
I'm not the only person who prefers /48 and hopefully most ISPs will eventually come around and realize that /56s don't really benefit anyone vs. /48s. Hurricane Electric has been handing out /48s upon request to our customers and users of our IPv6 tunnel services. We do not anticipate changing th

Re: IPv6 end user addressing

2011-08-06 Thread Sascha Lenz
Hi, > Let's clarify -- /48 is much preferred by Owen, but most ISPs seem to be > zeroing in on a /56 for production. Though some ISPs are using /64 for > their trials. IIRC, there's RfC6177 - covering almost exactly what the original poster asked for. Not sure if it was mentioned already. /4