Re: Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-18 Thread George B.
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Slightly old news, but it looks like Cogent depeered ESnet last week: > >> >> http://www.es.net/news-and-publications/esnet-news/2011/important-status-announcement-regarding-cogent-connectivity/ > > Current traceroutes indicate that ESnet is

Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-18 Thread Nick Hilliard
Slightly old news, but it looks like Cogent depeered ESnet last week: http://www.es.net/news-and-publications/esnet-news/2011/important-status-announcement-regarding-cogent-connectivity/ Current traceroutes indicate that ESnet is reaching Cogent via 6939_1299. In other news, automatically dro

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread John R. Levine
run by agencies of the US government, who knows what will happen in the future. I'm not so sure volunteer root operators are in a position to editorialize and for that to have a positive effect. ICANN could go down the path of stating that this causes internet stability (due to operators publi

Re: So... is it time to do IPv6 day monthy yet?

2011-06-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 18, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: >> Not really. A record adds 28 octets (a A record takes 16). Unless >> you have a lot of name servers most referrals still fall within 512 octets >> additionally most answers also still

Re: So... is it time to do IPv6 day monthy yet?

2011-06-18 Thread Owen DeLong
>> > > Not really. A record adds 28 octets (a A record takes 16). Unless > you have a lot of name servers most referrals still fall within 512 octets > additionally most answers also still fall withing 512 octets. > 1. Most != All even in IPv4 (ran into this in a few hotels with some

Re: Business Ethernet Services

2011-06-18 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
Try Maipu S3400 series, Chinese boxes and it is working really good for us fr couple of years. It would suits ur need n price range. On Saturday, June 18, 2011, Adrian Minta wrote: > On 06/17/11 21:55, Elliot Finley wrote: > > Anyone using a CPE that is reliable and costs<= $300 ? > > features n

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, John Levine wrote: > That has always been the case in the past.  Given the level of public > unhappiness that the US Dep't of Commerce has with ICANN's plan to add > zillions of new TLDs, and noting that several of the root servers are Speaking of some public unha

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread John Levine
>I believe the root server operators have stated (the equivalent of) >that it is not their job to make editorial decisions on what the root >zone contains. They distribute what the ICANN/NTIA/Verisign gestalt >publishes. That has always been the case in the past. Given the level of public unhapp

Re: So... is it time to do IPv6 day monthy yet?

2011-06-18 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: > Not really.  A record adds 28 octets (a A record takes 16).  Unless > you have a lot of name servers most referrals still fall within 512 octets > additionally most answers also still fall withing 512 octets. I agree.. not that it should

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread Randy Bush
i am not learning anything here. well, except maybe that someone who normally has his head up his butt also had it in the sand. what's new? how about the operational technical effects, like data from modeling various resolvers' responses to a large root zone? randy

Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.

2011-06-18 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 22:48, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Eugeniu Patrascu said: >> I need 100Mbs at home because I want to see a streamed movie NOW, not >> in a month because someone considers broadband a luxury :) >> Pretty simple usage scenario I might say. > > The top profile for

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread Robert Bonomi
> Subject: Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs > From: Owen DeLong > Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 01:24:37 -0700 > [[.. sneck ..]] > > While that is true, there are several McDonalds registered in various > spaces that actually predate even the existance of Mr. Crok's famous > burger joints. Just

Re: Business Ethernet Services

2011-06-18 Thread Adrian Minta
On 06/17/11 21:55, Elliot Finley wrote: Anyone using a CPE that is reliable and costs<= $300 ? features needed: SFP for uplink, QnQ, basic layer 2 functionality. If you're using something with the above parameters and you like it, please share. :) Thanks, Elliot Something like Zyxel MES-21

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 18, 2011, at 1:47 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message <201106180718.p5i7irbe020...@mail.r-bonomi.com>, Robert Bonomi > write > s: >> >>> Subject: Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs >>> From: Owen DeLong >>> >>> MacDonald's would likely get title to .macdonalds under the new rules,

Re: So... is it time to do IPv6 day monthy yet?

2011-06-18 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Owen DeLong write s: > > On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > >=20 > > In message , = > Michael Dillon writes: > >>> The last v6day was an isoc effort, there can be a separate nanog = > effort or > >>> your own. > >>=20 > >> It does make a lot of sense for NANOG (per

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <201106180718.p5i7irbe020...@mail.r-bonomi.com>, Robert Bonomi write s: > > > Subject: Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs > > From: Owen DeLong > > > > MacDonald's would likely get title to .macdonalds under the new rules, > > right? > > > > Well... Which MacDonald's? > > > > 1. Th

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: > On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:04 AM, George B. wrote: >> I think I will get .payme and make sure coke.payme, pepsi.payme, >> comcast.payme, etc. all get registered at the low-low price of >> $10/year. All I would need is 100,000 registrations to

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 18, 2011, at 12:18 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> Subject: Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs >> From: Owen DeLong >> >> MacDonald's would likely get title to .macdonalds under the new rules, >> right? >> >> Well... Which MacDonald's? >> >> 1. The fast food chain >> 2. O.C. MacDo

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 17, 2011, at 8:47 PM, John Osmon wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:44:07AM -1000, Paul Graydon wrote: >> [...] I don't mind new TLDs, but company ones are crazy >> and going to lead to a confusing and messy internet. > > Maybe we could demote the commercial ones to live under a singl

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 17, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Owen DeLong" > >> apple.com is a delegation from .com just as apple is a delegation from >> . >> >>> apple. and www.apple. are *not* -- and the root operators may throw >>> their hands up in the air if an

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 17, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Owen DeLong" > >> MacDonald's would likely get title to .macdonalds under the new rules, >> right? >> >> Well... Which MacDonald's? >> >> 1. The fast food chain >> 2. O.C. MacDonald's Plumbing Supply >>

Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs

2011-06-18 Thread Robert Bonomi
> Subject: Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs > From: Owen DeLong > > MacDonald's would likely get title to .macdonalds under the new rules, > right? > > Well... Which MacDonald's? > > 1. The fast food chain > 2. O.C. MacDonald's Plumbing Supply > 3. MacDonald and Sons Paving Systems >