Re: NIST and SP800-119

2011-02-14 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:24 PM, TR Shaw wrote: > Just wondering what this community thinks of NIST in > general and their SP800-119 ( > http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-119/sp800-119.pdf ) > writeup about IPv6 in particular. Well, according to this document IPv4 path MTU discovery

Re: NY Times on IPv4 depletion

2011-02-14 Thread Brzozowski, John
+1 = John Jason Brzozowski Comcast Cable e) mailto:john_brzozow...@cable.comcast.com o) 609-377-6594 m) 484-962-0060 w) http://www.comcast6.net = On 2/14/11 5:09 PM, "Cameron Byrne" wrote: >On Feb 14, 2011 1:52 P

NIST and SP800-119

2011-02-14 Thread TR Shaw
Just wondering what this community thinks of NIST in general and their SP800-119 ( http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/nistpubs/800-119/sp800-119.pdf ) writeup about IPv6 in particular.

Re: AS7007 incident - would someone please "fix" the article?

2011-02-14 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > There's a wikipedia article: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_7007_incident > > .. that a post I wrote up for a local computer club magazine somehow suffices > as primary reference material for. > > Even though I think this is partially hil

AS7007 incident - would someone please "fix" the article?

2011-02-14 Thread Adrian Chadd
There's a wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_7007_incident .. that a post I wrote up for a local computer club magazine somehow suffices as primary reference material for. Even though I think this is partially hilarious, would someone mind making it a little more authoritive and

Re: IPv6 is on the marketers radar

2011-02-14 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Jeff Hartley writes: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > >> It will certainly be entertaining to see what behaviors the various > >> CPEs default to on the public-facing side. =A0In the NetGear WNDR3700's > >> case after upgrading its firmware, options were

Re: NY Times on IPv4 depletion

2011-02-14 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Came ron Byrne writes: > --00163630f77d957e25049c454dc0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Feb 14, 2011 1:52 PM, "Mark Andrews" wrote: > > > > > > In message <4d597216.1030...@brightok.net>, Jack Bates writes: > > > > > > > > > On 2/14/2011 12:12 PM, Cameron Byrne

Re: IPv6 is on the marketers radar

2011-02-14 Thread Jeff Hartley
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > >> It will certainly be entertaining to see what behaviors the various >> CPEs default to on the public-facing side.  In the NetGear WNDR3700's >> case after upgrading its firmware, options were included for: >>   Disabled (default) >>   Auto-

Re: NY Times on IPv4 depletion

2011-02-14 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Feb 14, 2011 1:52 PM, "Mark Andrews" wrote: > > > In message <4d597216.1030...@brightok.net>, Jack Bates writes: > > > > > > On 2/14/2011 12:12 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: > > > Too bad the article pushes my mobile device to their mobile site > > > mobile.nytimes.com and that references an ipv4 li

Re: NY Times on IPv4 depletion

2011-02-14 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <4d597216.1030...@brightok.net>, Jack Bates writes: > > > On 2/14/2011 12:12 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: > > Too bad the article pushes my mobile device to their mobile site > > mobile.nytimes.com and that references an ipv4 literal for the picture to > > load so not only is nytimes

Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-14 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
>> The G in GTLD is Global... I'm not asserting anything, it's flat out in >> the term. I believe the "g" is for "generic." -- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus Communications - AS32421 First and Leading in DDoS Protection Solutions

Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-14 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
On 2/14/11 3:30 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote: owen, at several points you assert that gtlds are "global", which i suggest is an error on your part. TLDs come in two flavors. GTLD -- Global Top Level Domain -- A domain which contains recor

Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-14 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:30:31PM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote: > GTLD -- Global Top Level Domain -- A domain which contains records for > entities not restricted > to a particular geographical area. s/Global/Generic/ > The G in GTLD is Global... I'm not asserting anything, it's flat out in t

Re: IPv6 is on the marketers radar

2011-02-14 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Jeff Hartley writes: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > > > > On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > > > >> http://www.marketingvox.com/under-the-microscope-what-the-end-of-ipv4-me= > ans-for-marketers-048657/ > >> > >> I can hear people, say oh no.

Re: IPv6 is on the marketers radar

2011-02-14 Thread Blake Dunlap
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 15:52, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > > > > > > p.s. with apologies to any honest marketers. All 2 of you.. > > > > > What's the difference between a used car salesman and a network equipment > salesman? > > The used care salesman knows when he's lying to you :) > The required sof

Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-14 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote: > owen, > > at several points you assert that gtlds are "global", which i suggest is an > error on your part. > TLDs come in two flavors. GTLD -- Global Top Level Domain -- A domain which contains records for entities not restricted

Re: NY Times on IPv4 depletion

2011-02-14 Thread Jack Bates
On 2/14/2011 12:12 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: Too bad the article pushes my mobile device to their mobile site mobile.nytimes.com and that references an ipv4 literal for the picture to load so not only is nytimes not ipv6 it is also broken for ipv6 only users behind nat64 That's almos

Re: NY Times on IPv4 depletion

2011-02-14 Thread Cameron Byrne
Too bad the article pushes my mobile device to their mobile site mobile.nytimes.com and that references an ipv4 literal for the picture to load so not only is nytimes not ipv6 it is also broken for ipv6 only users behind nat64

NY Times on IPv4 depletion

2011-02-14 Thread Joly MacFie
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/technology/15internet.html “The problem was, the experiment never ended,” added Mr. Cerf, who is the > chairman of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and > Numbers

NY Times on IPv4 depletion

2011-02-14 Thread Joly MacFie
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/technology/15internet.html “The problem was, the experiment never ended,” added Mr. Cerf, who is the > chairman of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and > Numbers

Re: IPv6 is on the marketers radar

2011-02-14 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:59:35AM -0500, Jeff Hartley wrote: > It will certainly be entertaining to see what behaviors the various > CPEs default to on the public-facing side. In the NetGear WNDR3700's > case after upgrading its firmware, options were included for: > Disabled (default) > Auto

CaribNOG Puerto Rico April 13th - 15th 2011

2011-02-14 Thread André Edwards
*Dear Colleagues, members of the Nanog Community and CaribNOG* Supporters, The Caribbean Network Operators Group (CARIBNOG) has the pleasure of announcing and inviting you to participate in the Regional CaribNOG meeting, CARIBNOG Puerto Rico, from 13th to 15th April. The 3 day event is being joi

Re: IPv6 is on the marketers radar

2011-02-14 Thread Jeff Hartley
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > > On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:21 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > >> http://www.marketingvox.com/under-the-microscope-what-the-end-of-ipv4-means-for-marketers-048657/ >> >> I can hear people, say oh no >> >> Interesting to see that marketers do not lik

Re: IPv6 mistakes, was: Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-14 Thread Jack Bates
Luckily, they do. Only the smart DSLAMs had issues, and they even blocked IP protocol 41. haha On 2/13/2011 4:44 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: Fine approach as long as the DSLAMs and CPE allow ether type 0x86DD to pass.

Re: ANNOUNCE: NANOG List and Website Downtime

2011-02-14 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Hello All: It appears that Merit has corrected the v6 redirect loop so all services should be operational at this point. If anyone is having any ongoing issues please let me know. Regards, Mike On behalf of the NANOG Communications Committee -- Michael K. Smith - CISSP, GSEC, GISP Chief Techni

Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-14 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
owen, at several points you assert that gtlds are "global", which i suggest is an error on your part. gtlds are whatever the controlling contract (icann) requires, and that currently lacks an external to the point of service performance measurement, and whatever the registrants require, with

Re: ANNOUNCE: NANOG List and Website Downtime

2011-02-14 Thread David Freedman
Somebody has helpfully pointed out that this is only broken over v6, v4 is fine $ curl -I -4 nanog.org HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:43:10 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.6 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.6 OpenSSL/0.9.8e DAV/2 PHP/5.2.4 with Suhosin-Patch X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.4 Content-Type: text/html

Re: ANNOUNCE: NANOG List and Website Downtime

2011-02-14 Thread David Freedman
Has this move completed yet? I'm getting redirect loop: $ curl -I www.nanog.org HTTP/1.1 302 Found Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:15:04 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.6 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/2.2.6 OpenSSL/0.9.8e DAV/2 PHP/5.2.4 with Suhosin-Patch Location: http://www.nanog.org Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote: >

Re: Packet over SONET failback

2011-02-14 Thread Per Carlson
Hi Jason. >>> PoS failure detection happens in under 50ms IMHO this is the most important part, fast *down* detection. > It's not actually SONET all the way through. It's GigE from the router to > the SONET node, an unprotected OC192 wave to another node, out GigE to the > far end router. If

Re: Packet over SONET failback

2011-02-14 Thread Jason Lixfeld
On 2011-02-14, at 6:47 AM, Rob Evans wrote: >> PoS failure detection happens in under 50ms, but what about the failback? >> Same deal? I ask because I've got two routers connected to opposite ends of >> a spare PoS link that I've been playing with and I'm noticing that the >> failback on the

Re: Packet over SONET failback

2011-02-14 Thread Rob Evans
> PoS failure detection happens in under 50ms, but what about the failback?   > Same deal?  I ask because I've got two routers connected to opposite ends of > a spare PoS link that I've been playing with and I'm noticing that the > failback on the far side seems to be about 15 seconds (assuming t

Re: US Warships jamming Lebanon Internet

2011-02-14 Thread denys
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:58:22 -0500, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Feb 12, 2011, at 5:55 PM, de...@visp.net.lb wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:39:59 -1000, Michael Painter wrote: de...@visp.net.lb wrote: On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 12:53:14 -0600, Jack Bates wrote: On 2/8/2011 7:41 AM, Denys Fedoryshchenk

Re: IPv6 is on the marketers radar

2011-02-14 Thread Franck Martin
- Original Message - > From: "Michael Dillon" > To: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Monday, 14 February, 2011 10:37:51 AM > Subject: Re: IPv6 is on the marketers radar > > It's bad that home gateways need replacing > > It's not neccessarily bad. There are a lot of older devices out there > and