Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-21 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
My two cents is that something like this won't pass until at least 2016 if not 2020. Jeff On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Ken Chase wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:00:43AM -0500, Jeffrey Lyon said: >  >Indeed, offshore resolvers, offshore DNS infrastructure and the >  >progressive's futi

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-21 Thread Ken Chase
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:00:43AM -0500, Jeffrey Lyon said: >Indeed, offshore resolvers, offshore DNS infrastructure and the >progressive's futile attempts at interference with free markets is >once again thwarted. We all know that U.S. law helps keep the internet >safe When I ran a bun

AS6453 (Tata/Teleglobe/Globe Internet?) <-> various US ISP Outage?

2010-11-21 Thread Owen DeLong
Anyone else seeing problems reaching AT&T/XO possibly others from AS6453 in Europe? From mclink.it (195.110.152.67), I see the following: [12-97-129-192:~] owen% traceroute 140.239.191.10 traceroute to 140.239.191.10 (140.239.191.10), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 192.168.15.254 (192.168.15.254

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-21 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Indeed, offshore resolvers, offshore DNS infrastructure and the progressive's futile attempts at interference with free markets is once again thwarted. We all know that U.S. law helps keep the internet safe Jeff On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Jeffrey S. Young wrote: > > > On 22/11/2010, at 3

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-21 Thread Jeffrey S. Young
On 22/11/2010, at 3:37 PM, ML wrote: > On 11/19/2010 3:45 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: >> It seems that the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) >> passed through the Senate Judiciary Committee >> with a unanimous (!) vote : >> >> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-21 Thread ML
On 11/19/2010 3:45 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: It seems that the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) passed through the Senate Judiciary Committee with a unanimous (!) vote : http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/11/pirate-slaying-censorship-bill-gets-unanimous-sup

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-21 Thread Owen DeLong
> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> Imea nrea lly, what ifwe wrot eEng lish thew aywe writ eIPv 6add ress >>> es? Looks pretty stupid without a floating separator, doesn't it? >>> >> If this were prose, sure. It isn't. It's an addressing scheme. I mean, >> really, we don'

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
This isnt new - there have been proposals elsewhere for a resolver based blacklist of child porn sites. There are also of course the various great firewalls of various countries. In case you'd prefer that to having to blacklist them at your end .. Doing this for trademark infringement is going

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-21 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 11/21/10 2:50 PM, William Herrin wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: >> There is a lot of assumption on the part of ipv6 that the use of ipv6 >> literals in uri's would be a rather infrequent occurrence, given how >> infrequent it is in ipv4 it would seem to be a reas

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-21 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 21/11/2010 22:50, William Herrin wrote: Just for my own edification, who else besides Cisco do you know who uses that notation for MAC addresses? I want some convincing before I'll accept the claim that it's widespread. Brocade, or at least the Foundry part of Brocade. Nick

RE: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-21 Thread George Bonser
> > An option w/ movable separators: > > 260:abc:1234:9876:fe::1 > > Actual IPv6 standard (and also allowed w/ movable separators): > > 260a:bc12:3498:76fe::1 > The problem with movable separators is in handling zeros. If the separators are a known distance apart, zeros can be deduced. The

Re: IPv6

2010-11-21 Thread Matthew Petach
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 2:05 PM, George Bonser wrote: >> >> Well, >> >> ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2a00:1288:f006:1fe::1000 >> ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2001:4998:f00b:1fe::1000 >> ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2001:4998:f011:1fe::1000 >> >> In my bgp I see

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-21 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > There is a lot of assumption on the part of ipv6 that the use of ipv6 > literals in uri's would be a rather infrequent occurrence, given how > infrequent it is in ipv4 it would seem to be a reasonable assumption. Joel, Looks like an ass-u-m

Re: IPv6

2010-11-21 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 21, 2010, at 2:05 PM, George Bonser wrote: >> >> Well, >> >> ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2a00:1288:f006:1fe::1000 >> ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2001:4998:f00b:1fe::1000 >> ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2001:4998:f011:1fe::1000 >> >> In my bgp I see

Re: IPv6

2010-11-21 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 2:05 PM, George Bonser wrote: >> >> Well, >> >> ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2a00:1288:f006:1fe::1000 >> ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2001:4998:f00b:1fe::1000 >> ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2001:4998:f011:1fe::1000 >> >> In my bgp I see

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-21 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 21, 2010, at 7:54 AM, William Herrin wrote: > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: fd00:68::1 and fd:0068::1 mean different things now. The former means fd00:0068::1 while the latter means 00fd:0068::1. I would instead have them mean the same thing: fd00:6800

Re: IPv6

2010-11-21 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: > On 21-11-10 22:31, Cameron Byrne wrote: >> >> Yahoo just dropped in on the IPv6 content party >> http://ipv6.weather.yahoo.com/ >> I just bookmarked it.  Well done Yahoos. > > Well, > > ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2a00:1288:f

RE: IPv6

2010-11-21 Thread George Bonser
> > Well, > > ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2a00:1288:f006:1fe::1000 > ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2001:4998:f00b:1fe::1000 > ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2001:4998:f011:1fe::1000 > > In my bgp I see only the first address, I don't see any path to two > others

Re: IPv6

2010-11-21 Thread sthaug
> > Yahoo just dropped in on the IPv6 content party > > http://ipv6.weather.yahoo.com/ > > I just bookmarked it. Well done Yahoos. > > Well, > > ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2a00:1288:f006:1fe::1000 > ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2001:4998:f00b:1fe::1000 > ipv6.ycpi.ops.y

Re: IPv6

2010-11-21 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
On 21-11-10 22:31, Cameron Byrne wrote: Yahoo just dropped in on the IPv6 content party http://ipv6.weather.yahoo.com/ I just bookmarked it. Well done Yahoos. Well, ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2a00:1288:f006:1fe::1000 ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2001:4998:f00b:1fe::1

Re: IPv6

2010-11-21 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: >> On 11/18/2010 5:14 PM, Lee Riemer wrote: >>> Try tracerouting to 2001:500:4:13::81 (www.arin.net) or >>> 2001:470:0:76::2 (www.he.net) via Cogent. >>> >> >> Interesting. I noticed a simi

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-21 Thread Joe Sniderman
On 11/19/2010 03:45 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > It seems that the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act > (COICA) passed through the Senate Judiciary Committee with a > unanimous (!) vote : > > http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/11/pirate-slaying-censorship-bill-gets-unani

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:12:09 EST, William Herrin said: > 260:abcde:123456:98::1 > > 260 - IANA to ARIN, a /12 > abcde - ARIN to ISP, a /32 > 123456 - ISP to customer, a /56 > 98 - customer subnet > ::1 - LAN address What do you do when ARIN gives Tier1 a /24, and Tier1 gives Billy Bob's Bait, Ta

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-21 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 11/21/10 7:54 AM, William Herrin wrote: > We've gone too far down the wrong path to change it now; colons are > going to separate every second byte in the v6 address. But from a > human factors perspective, floating colons would have been better. >>From a computer parser perspective, a character

Re: Problems at HE.net?

2010-11-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/21/10 2:58 AM, Franck Martin wrote: > My understanding was that there was a partial power outage that lasted only a > few minutes for some systems (not the entire facility). Generators kicked in > but a few UPS did not do their job correctly. > There's been some weather activity on this s

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-21 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> fd00:68::1 and fd:0068::1 mean different things now. The former means >>> fd00:0068::1 while the latter means 00fd:0068::1. I would instead have >>> them mean the same thing: fd00:6800::1. The single-colon separator >>> gets syntax but no sem

Re: Problems at HE.net?

2010-11-21 Thread Franck Martin
My understanding was that there was a partial power outage that lasted only a few minutes for some systems (not the entire facility). Generators kicked in but a few UPS did not do their job correctly. - Original Message - From: "Ravi Pina" To: "Ulf Zimmermann" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent:

Re: Problems at HE.net?

2010-11-21 Thread Ravi Pina
And mine just came back up within in the last 5 minutes. On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 02:01:36AM -0800, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > Yes, it was a power issue, friend is now back up afik, although he > still tries to figure out why one machine came up, while another and > the remote console didn't. >

Re: Problems at HE.net?

2010-11-21 Thread Ulf Zimmermann
Yes, it was a power issue, friend is now back up afik, although he still tries to figure out why one machine came up, while another and the remote console didn't. On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 04:51:08AM -0500, Ravi Pina wrote: > Linode went down and lost equipment[1]. Of course my node was > one of th

Re: Problems at HE.net?

2010-11-21 Thread Ravi Pina
Linode went down and lost equipment[1]. Of course my node was one of them. LinkedIn and Minecraft (among others) were also cold offline. -r [1] http://status.linode.com/2010/11/possible-power-outage-in-fremont.html On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 11:15:30PM -0800, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > Friend lost m