Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-06-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Michael Painter wrote: > As randy said not too long ago, First they came for... No. Not Randy. That was pastor martin neimoller about the nazis. So, you just invoked godwin's law. Thread over. thank you suresh

Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-06-30 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:41 AM, Michael Painter wrote: > As randy said not too long ago, First they came for... The felons? Strangely, I am not moved to defend them. According to the article, they didn't even take the physical computers running the sites, meaning not even other users on that virtu

Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-06-30 Thread Michael Painter
As randy said not too long ago, First they came for... BURBANK, Calif. (AP) -- U.S. officials on Wednesday announced a major crackdown on movie piracy that involved disabling nine websites that were offering downloads of pirated movies in some cases hours after they appeared in theaters. Offic

Re: ASR vs 7604 for BGP border router?

2010-06-30 Thread khatfield
What kind of budget do you have? I think it really depends on what you're going after. Both would work... Is there something specific you want to do? Honestly, your current bandwidth utilization and need could be handled by an OpenBSD system. I think I may be missing your exact question. Are y

SV: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-30 Thread Daniel Dib
> in closing, i have to say I love HP's "alias" command, I can rev my > config and save it to a tftp server by typing "saveit" while enabled. > Some IOS's allow you to do a "wr net" and get it there with a predefined > tftp server, but as we discovered, this isn't available on all devices

Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-30 Thread Matthew Walster
On 30 June 2010 21:50, Ricky Beam wrote: > Typos are just as simple (even more simple) on an HP.  There's no add/remove > mode for vlan port membership.  You specify the entire list every time. conf t vlan 1000 tag 1 tag 22 untag 44 exit exit write memory exit Result: vlan 1000 is tagged on port

ASR vs 7604 for BGP border router?

2010-06-30 Thread David Hubbard
Curious if anyone can give me some real world thoughts on the Cisco ASR1004 w/RP2 & ESP5 versus a 7604 w/?? as a border router for web hosting environment. I'm looking to replace a pair of aging routers of a different make. Current config is four providers, two send full BGP on gigE to both of ou

Metro-E Testing Parameter

2010-06-30 Thread Muhammad Reza
Hi Everyone, Currently we are planning to doing POC for some Metro Ethernet product. Any one has testing parameter for Metro-E product ? It's ok even the testing parameter is basic parameter. Thanks in advance. Reza

Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-30 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Jeff Young wrote: you'll need twice as much of Brand X and therefore, the deal isn't quite so appealing. (By the way HP, Cisco and Juniper are pretty much interchangeable in this discussion). If they are interchangeable then why bother getting into a war at all? It's very tiresome. :-| --

RE: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-30 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Greg Whynott > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:18 AM > To: George Bonser > Cc: Colin Alston; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP > > or become familiar with some basic commands, which is after all, our > job... on hp: show po

Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-30 Thread Jeff Kell
On 6/30/2010 5:14 PM, Greg Whynott wrote: > On Jun 30, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Ricky Beam wrote: >> No they don't. Which version of IOS are you running? Oh, right, that >> switch doesn't run IOS, it runs CatOS? Wait a min, that's a 1900... it >> uses a menu interface. Actually, before they went

Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-30 Thread Greg Whynott
On Jun 30, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Ricky Beam wrote: > Personally, I prefer a bit of both. same here. both have some things which I don't agree with. prime example again is adding more than X vlans to an interface, why the "add"? interface TenGigabitEthernet5/5 switchport trunk allowed vlan 2

Re: Future of WiMax

2010-06-30 Thread J Wytt
They have not claimed this. The option to change is there if LTE becomes a better long term solution but no one has said it will happen (or even probably). Either way, both technologies will continue to develop and both will be viable players in the marketplace for quite some time. On Wed, Jun 1

Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-30 Thread Ricky Beam
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:18:24 -0400, Greg Whynott wrote: I like cisco, but i think the HP way is more logical and less prone to error. A previous poster gave an excelent example, i burnt myself not adding the "add" to a trunk config on our cisco switches. i went over the magical number

Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-30 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 30/06/2010 17:07, George Bonser wrote: > Some gear you add vlans to a port. Other gear you add ports to vlans. > Personally, I prefer the Cisco configuration syntax because if I want to > know which vlans a port is in, you look at the port config and there it > is. Other gear you need to look t

Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-30 Thread Greg Whynott
On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:07 PM, George Bonser wrote: > if I want to > know which vlans a port is in, you look at the port config and there it > is. Other gear you need to look through each vlan configuration and > note which vlans the port appears in and hope you don't overlook one. or become fam

RE: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-30 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: sthaug > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 12:35 AM > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP > > The Cisco default of allowing all VLANs on a trunk is dangerous in a > service provider environment (not to mention VTP, DTP and other

RE: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-30 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Colin Alston > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:27 PM > To: Matthew Walster > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Matthew Walster > wrote: > It just feels ass backwards alot of the time,

Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-30 Thread sthaug
> > That's strange, I abhor the Cisco way of doing VLANs and love the > > HP/Procurve method. > > > > What do you find so irritating? > > It just feels ass backwards alot of the time, especially trunking. > That's more likely an "RTFM" problem, but the Cisco VLAN config has > always just seemed mo