Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: That's IODEF, if and when it picks up enough steam to get widely deployed. That looks over-engineered, but at least someone can create a web service where the user can fill in fields and use drop-down menus to create the XML and the cut/past

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
That's IODEF, if and when it picks up enough steam to get widely deployed. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > Unfortunately this seems very focused on reporting SPAM and other email > related abuses. What I was looking for was a way to format a generic abuse > report

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, J.D. Falk wrote: A few years I proposed a standard way to report abuse by email (X-headers) but nobody was interested. There's a (draft, de facto) standard format for automated reports between providers: http://mipassoc.org/arf/ http://tools.ietf.org/wg/marf/ Unfortuna

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Drew Weaver wrote: > > Half of the time our abuse people spend is wading through the spam at the > abuse@ addresses =) Oh we love that. Find some way to automate feeding all that to your spam filters and you got yourself a sizeable trap, if the abuse address is a

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread gordon b slater
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 17:44 -0500, Andrey Gordon wrote: > What I don't get is why there is consistency in opening sites. Why does > facebook open all the time and store.apple.com barely opens all the time. > I'd say if it would be NAT exhaustion, they would all behave the same way > meaning open an

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread gordon b slater
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 17:04 -0500, Andrey Gordon wrote: > Thx to all the folks replying off the list. > > The more I trouble shoot the more I'm convinced that it's not the sites that > are doing rate-limiting. I went to a website of one of my previous employers > (a small company). Chances of them

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:44:01 EST, Andrey Gordon said: > It does seem much like NAT exhaustion even though the f/w claims only 13K > session for two dynamic NATs and about 20 static ones. > What I don't get is why there is consistency in opening sites. Why does > facebook open all the time and stor

Re: Connectivity problems to google via openDNS

2010-02-09 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 09:56:23AM -0800, Jay Hennigan wrote: > Mark wrote: >> Hello nanog, >> >> Just wondering if anyone is experiencing the same problem with google >> and openDNS on their end or knows what's going on there with openDNS. >> The problem just occurred about 20 minutes ago. > >

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Chris Campbell
That's not surprising behaviour on a PaloAlto unit, they are still very young in the market and my colleagues have had issues with NAT and proxy arp in the recent past. Chris Campbell - On 9 Feb 2010, at 22:31, "Andrey Gordon" wrote: > By changing my outbound IP addres

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Andrey Gordon
Thanks to all, The problem seems to be fixed by changing the NAT ip to something else and than back. It does seem much like NAT exhaustion even though the f/w claims only 13K session for two dynamic NATs and about 20 static ones. What I don't get is why there is consistency in opening sites. Why d

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Andrey Gordon
By changing my outbound IP address to a different one (i suspect effectively resetting sessions) the problem was solved. So, after that I set it back to the original source NAT. And the sites open up just fine still. It really behaves like a NAT table exhaustion, but the firewall only reports 13000

Re: Regular Expression for IPv6 addresses

2010-02-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:12:11 +1100, Mark Andrews said: > In message , > Thomas > Habets writes: > > On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > And now for the trick question. Is :::077.077.077.077 a legal > > > mapped address and if it, does it match 077.077.077.077? > > > > Forget IPv6.

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Rogelio
Could it be a dns issue? Some sites trying to resolve your ip address and others don't? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Andrey Gordon wrote: Can't find my IP on any of the black lists. Don't have any proxies. Sites that behave poorly are consistent. That is to say that

Re: Regular Expression for IPv6 addresses

2010-02-09 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Thomas Habets writes: > On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Mark Andrews wrote: > > And now for the trick question. Is :::077.077.077.077 a legal > > mapped address and if it, does it match 077.077.077.077? > > Forget IPv6. The first question is does 077.077.077.077 match > 077.077.077.077 in

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Andrey Gordon
Thx to all the folks replying off the list. The more I trouble shoot the more I'm convinced that it's not the sites that are doing rate-limiting. I went to a website of one of my previous employers (a small company). Chances of them having a fancy reverse proxy with some sort of black list filteri

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Jay Hennigan
Andrey Gordon wrote: Can't find my IP on any of the black lists. Don't have any proxies. Sites that behave poorly are consistent. That is to say that facebook.com, apple.com would always come up without an issue, but cnn.com, forever21.com(i know, don't ask, students), store.apple.com would consi

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Jim Shankland
Andrey Gordon wrote: Can't find my IP on any of the black lists. Don't have any proxies. Sites that behave poorly are consistent. That is to say that facebook.com, apple.com would always come up without an issue, but cnn.com, forever21.com(i know, don't ask, students), store.apple.com would consi

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Andrey Gordon
Can't find my IP on any of the black lists. Don't have any proxies. Sites that behave poorly are consistent. That is to say that facebook.com, apple.com would always come up without an issue, but cnn.com, forever21.com(i know, don't ask, students), store.apple.com would consistently take forever to

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread J.D. Falk
On Feb 9, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, John Peach wrote: > >> Damn forms; whatever happened to abuse@ addresses? > > A few years I proposed a standard way to report abuse by email (X-headers) > but nobody was interested. There's a (draft, de facto) standard

Re: Data Center recommendations

2010-02-09 Thread Jeff Johnstone
Have to get out of the gravity well these days to be on the safe side :) cheers Jeff On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Lunch Hound wrote: > Hi, > Who do you like for data centers these days? > > Looking for a site more than 1000 miles from Chicago. > > > Thanks! >

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Jon Lewis
True...and I was a subscriber, so I should have remembered that...but it was roughly a decade ago and in that form dead most of that time. Irrelevant to this guy's current issue. On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Tony Finch wrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Jon Lewis wrote: Other than the Spamhaus DROP list, I'

Re: Data Center recommendations

2010-02-09 Thread Scott Weeks
--- b...@herrin.us wrote: From: William Herrin On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Lunch Hound wrote: > Who do you like for data centers these days? > Looking for a site more than 1000 miles from Chicago. DR Fortress in Honolulu. Especially in February. And wouldn't you know it, ORD has direct f

RE: AT&T Metro E in Atlanta

2010-02-09 Thread Darden, Patrick S.
It's been up and down since maybe 11am eastern. We have a ticket in with them, but no response as of yet. --Patrick Darden Athens Regional Medical Center -Original Message- From: Raleigh Apple [mailto:rap...@rapidlink.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 3:14 PM To: nanog@nanog.org

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Tony Finch
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Jon Lewis wrote: > > Other than the Spamhaus DROP list, I've never heard of blacklisting being > applied to IP routing. The RBL was originally distributed via BGP. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/ GERMAN BIGHT HUMBER: SOUTHWEST 5 TO 7. MODERATE OR ROUGH. SQUALLY

AT&T Metro E in Atlanta

2010-02-09 Thread Raleigh Apple
Anybody have any idea whats going on with AT&T metro E in Atlanta? r

RE: Data Center recommendations

2010-02-09 Thread Jess Cohen
Corenap. In Austin, Texas. That should cover your 1000 miles pretty easily. www.corenap.com *NOTE: I'm biased because I work there but I've worked at a lot of datacenters and this one is by far my favorite. Jessica -Original Message- From: Lunch Hound [mailto:lunchhound9...@gmail.com]

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Andrey Gordon wrote: I have a problem that I can't seem to find a solution to yet. My student network is being NATted out and anyone who's on that network had troubles accessing random websites. For example, going to www.apple.com or www.facebook.com would work great, but sto

Re: Data Center recommendations

2010-02-09 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Lunch Hound wrote: > Who do you like for data centers these days? > > Looking for a site more than 1000 miles from Chicago. DR Fortress in Honolulu. Especially in February. And wouldn't you know it, ORD has direct flights... -- William D. Herrin ...

Re: Data Center recommendations

2010-02-09 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Lunch Hound wrote: Hi, Who do you like for data centers these days? Looking for a site more than 1000 miles from Chicago. Can you be a little less specific in what you're looking for in a data center? 1000 miles away puts you in the New England area, the peninsula of FL

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Chris Campbell
I know that cisco either are or have integrated the IronPort reputation service into their IPS devices, maybe a check on www.senderbase.org could help. Chris Campbell - On 9 Feb 2010, at 19:36, "Andrey Gordon" wrote: > Hi list > > I have a problem that I can't seem to

Re: Data Center recommendations

2010-02-09 Thread Shane Ronan
Equinix On Feb 9, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Lunch Hound wrote: Hi, Who do you like for data centers these days? Looking for a site more than 1000 miles from Chicago. Thanks!

black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Andrey Gordon
Hi list I have a problem that I can't seem to find a solution to yet. My student network is being NATted out and anyone who's on that network had troubles accessing random websites. For example, going to www.apple.com or www.facebook.com would work great, but store.apple.com would either not load

Data Center recommendations

2010-02-09 Thread Lunch Hound
Hi, Who do you like for data centers these days? Looking for a site more than 1000 miles from Chicago. Thanks!

Re: about udp 80,8080,0

2010-02-09 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
If you don't need UDP, disallow it to your entire network or to the /xx where such is applicable. We have basic filters like this with our carriers upstream and have prevented several Gbps of traffic from ever hitting our filters as a result. Jeff 2010/2/9 Michael Holstein : > >>    What does ap

Re: Connectivity problems to google via openDNS

2010-02-09 Thread Jay Hennigan
Mark wrote: Hello nanog, Just wondering if anyone is experiencing the same problem with google and openDNS on their end or knows what's going on there with openDNS. The problem just occurred about 20 minutes ago. Don't do that then. OpenDNS is a form of censorware and almost certainly hijac

Re: .ve WHOIS Down?

2010-02-09 Thread Crist Clark
>>> On 2/8/2010 at 7:17 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 02/08/10 17:13, Crist Clark wrote: >> For want of a better place to ask, I'm wondering if anyone monitoring >> this list might know what is up with the registro.nic.ve web site. >> The WHOIS at www.nic.ve refers to that site, and it appears to be

.ve WHOIS is Back (was: Re: .ve WHOIS Down?)

2010-02-09 Thread Crist Clark
>>> On 2/8/2010 at 7:28 PM, Nathan Ward wrote: > On 9/02/2010, at 2:13 PM, Crist Clark wrote: > >> For want of a better place to ask, I'm wondering if anyone monitoring >> this list might know what is up with the registro.nic.ve web site. >> The WHOIS at www.nic.ve refers to that site, and it app

Re: about udp 80,8080,0

2010-02-09 Thread Michael Holstein
>What does application use 8.8080,0 port for the proper purpose? > > I've seen newer BitTorrent clients do this (UDP is supported, and the port can be arbitrary). Cheers, Michael Holstein Cleveland State University

RE: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Jess Cohen
Having managed an abuse desk, I can honestly say that sometimes the amount of email you receive can be overwhelming. There were times I was receiving 30k-50k emails a day. It's easy for some to get lost. On that note, dealing with Yahoo! has been a constant pain. I think they've grown so large

Re: Regular Expression for IPv6 addresses

2010-02-09 Thread Thomas Habets
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Mark Andrews wrote: And now for the trick question. Is :::077.077.077.077 a legal mapped address and if it, does it match 077.077.077.077? Forget IPv6. The first question is does 077.077.077.077 match 077.077.077.077 in IPv4? The answer is a long one full of differen

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:54 AM, John Peach wrote: > Does anyone know how to get Yahoo abuse to recognize that they're > hosting a phishing site? All I can ever get back from them is > boilerplate telling me they know how frustrating it is to get spam, > that it did not originate from them and how

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, John Peach wrote: Damn forms; whatever happened to abuse@ addresses? A few years I proposed a standard way to report abuse by email (X-headers) but nobody was interested. I suspect forms are because the abuse desks want necessary information in a structured way that doe

Re: Connectivity problems to google via openDNS

2010-02-09 Thread Mark
Doh. Didn't realize that. Thanks for the heads up Joe. I'll go take another look. Thanks in advance! Kind regards, Mark On Feb 9, 2010, at 10:50 PM, Joe Abley wrote: On 2010-02-09, at 09:43, Mark wrote: It's over a vpn from Asia to US. I wouldn't worry about that 280ms latency. :) No

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Shane Short
SPAM, at a guess :) On 09/02/2010, at 10:47 PM, John Peach wrote: > Damn forms; whatever happened to abuse@ addresses? > > > > On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:39:20 -0700 > Jaren Angerbauer wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:54 AM, John Peach >> wrote: >>> Does anyone know how to get Yahoo abuse to

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:47 AM, John Peach wrote: > Damn forms; whatever happened to abuse@ addresses? > They got abused. :/ Matt

Re: Connectivity problems to google via openDNS

2010-02-09 Thread Joe Abley
On 2010-02-09, at 09:43, Mark wrote: > It's over a vpn from Asia to US. I wouldn't worry about that 280ms latency. :) Note that you're not trying to reach google, either. OpenDNS is returning you addresses for their own proxies. I believe they do this as part of some of their content-control s

RE: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Drew Weaver
They were likely spammed out of existence. Half of the time our abuse people spend is wading through the spam at the abuse@ addresses =) Kind of ironic ;-) You can't really use anti-spam tech on there because people are literally forwarding you spam ;-) -Drew -Original Message- From

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread John Peach
Damn forms; whatever happened to abuse@ addresses? On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:39:20 -0700 Jaren Angerbauer wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:54 AM, John Peach > wrote: > > Does anyone know how to get Yahoo abuse to recognize that they're > > hosting a phishing site? All I can ever get back from th

Re: Connectivity problems to google via openDNS

2010-02-09 Thread Mark
It's over a vpn from Asia to US. I wouldn't worry about that 280ms latency. :) Kind regards, Mark On Feb 9, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Joachim Tingvold wrote: On 9. feb. 2010, at 15.32, Mark wrote: Just wondering if anyone is experiencing the same problem with google and openDNS on their end or k

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Jaren Angerbauer
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:54 AM, John Peach wrote: > Does anyone know how to get Yahoo abuse to recognize that they're > hosting a phishing site? All I can ever get back from them is > boilerplate telling me they know how frustrating it is to get spam, > that it did not originate from them and how

RE: Connectivity problems to google via openDNS

2010-02-09 Thread Mark
Hello nanog, Just wondering if anyone is experiencing the same problem with google and openDNS on their end or knows what's going on there with openDNS. The problem just occurred about 20 minutes ago. Trace is as follows: http://inetpro.org/pastebin/2418 Kind regards, Mark

FW: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Blake Pfankuch
It's almost as much fun as getting them to recognize that my home mail server is not a bulk sender, however even after filling out their form they still continue to block me. In all seriousness my only suggestion is to fill this form out repeatedly. My general experience is that they read 1 o

Re: The Internet Revealed - A film about IXPs v2.0: now available

2010-02-09 Thread James Bensley
Cool video, it explains better than I can, I think I will show this to my colleagues rather than failing to simplify an explanation to them. -- Regards, James ;) Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach - "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day." - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/marie_von_eb

Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread John Peach
Does anyone know how to get Yahoo abuse to recognize that they're hosting a phishing site? All I can ever get back from them is boilerplate telling me they know how frustrating it is to get spam, that it did not originate from them and how to read the headers. Not half as frustrating as their ignor

Re: about udp 80,8080,0

2010-02-09 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Feb 9, 2010, at 6:57 PM, 최종훈 wrote: > Is there anyone who have experiences controlling udp port 8,8080,0 ? > rate-limiting or block! Not a good idea to use rate-limiting to deal with DDoS attacks - the programmatically-generated bad traffic ends up crowding out legitimate traffic. All ki

about udp 80,8080,0

2010-02-09 Thread 최종훈
These days, most of ddos attack use udp port 80.8080.0 in our country and our network. Sometimes the traffic volume is up to 100gbps higher. So, we are considering to rate(bps) control about udp port 8,8080,0 in our ISP network. Although such a ports arp not be used commonly...