Re: Routing to multiple uplinks

2009-12-19 Thread Steven King
HSRP/VRRP can be tweaked to less than 1s fail over time. Can you provide a copy of your network map for analysis? GLBP might be a viable option as fail over is not actually an issue at that point. On 12/19/09 2:48 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: > VRRP/HSRP does not cause latency the problem we faced pri

Re: Routing to multiple uplinks

2009-12-19 Thread Rodrick Brown
VRRP/HSRP does not cause latency the problem we faced prior was when links flapped or timed out this would be too much of a hindrance for our users to reconcile application state with various trading venues we are trading thousands upon thousands of trades a minute to various destinations. As stat

Re: Routing to multiple uplinks

2009-12-19 Thread Steven King
Maybe I am missing something, but how does VRRP/HSRP cause latency? On 12/19/09 3:45 AM, Scott Berkman wrote: > Anycast? > http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog29/abstracts.php?pt=NjcxJm5hbm9nMjk=&nm=n > anog29 > > Might need to know a little more about the layout here for a better answer. > >

Re: Chinese bgp metering story

2009-12-19 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Paolo Lucente wrote: > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:09:32PM -0600, James Hess wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Jonny Martin wrote: >> .. >>> modified if need be - to achieve this. ?Mixing billing with the reachability >>> information signalled through BGP just doesn't seem like a good id

Re: Chinese bgp metering story

2009-12-19 Thread Paolo Lucente
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 08:42:33PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > i am truely in awe how deeply the implications and alternatives have > been analysed. this is particularly impressive given the complete > absense of any facts about the alleged proposal. Part of the thread just went more of general di

Re: Chinese bgp metering story

2009-12-19 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Dec 19, 2009, at 6:42 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > this is particularly impressive given the complete absense of any facts > about the alleged proposal. I think the whole brouhaha is the merely result of someone saying 'BGP-speaking routers' vs. saying 'peering/transit edge routers', combined w

Re: Chinese bgp metering story

2009-12-19 Thread Randy Bush
i am truely in awe how deeply the implications and alternatives have been analysed. this is particularly impressive given the complete absense of any facts about the alleged proposal. randy

Re: Chinese bgp metering story

2009-12-19 Thread Paolo Lucente
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:09:32PM -0600, James Hess wrote: > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Jonny Martin wrote: > .. > > modified if need be - to achieve this. ?Mixing billing with the reachability > > information signalled through BGP just doesn't seem like a good idea. > > Indeed not.. but

Re: Edge-Core (Accton) switches

2009-12-19 Thread Raoul Bhatia [IPAX]
On 02.12.2009 19:12, Todd Mueller wrote: Anyone have any experience using Edge-Core switches (or Accton, Edge-Core is a subsidiary)? Good/bad? Pricing/features seem good, but you often get what you pay for . . . we have a couple of Foundry Networks EdgeIron 4802CF, which should be similar to a

Re: Chinese bgp metering story

2009-12-19 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009, Dobbins, Roland wrote: > Existing hardware does this today with NetFlow, et. al. .. not only that, we've been doing this for a bloody long time in internet years. About all that really matter is figuring out how to engineer your network to allow for netflow based billing wit

RE: Routing to multiple uplinks

2009-12-19 Thread Scott Berkman
Anycast? http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog29/abstracts.php?pt=NjcxJm5hbm9nMjk=&nm=n anog29 Might need to know a little more about the layout here for a better answer. -Scott -Original Message- From: rodrick brown [mailto:rodrick.br...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009

Ipsec/VRF Mpls ?

2009-12-19 Thread Stephane MAGAND
Hi after a first post with 0 answer (very thanks ..) i test a second post for get a small help. I am search a simple sample of configuration for a cisco 2821 for connect a Ipsec routers ton a MPLS IP VPN Backbone My cisco 2821 have two interface, one connected at my MPLS network and the second a