Re: More ASN collissions

2009-12-13 Thread Rene Wilhelm
Florian Weimer wrote: * Rene Wilhelm: AS3745 is not a duplicate ASN assignment either. Like AS35868 the entry at whois.ripe.net is a user created object in the RIPE routing registry, not an assignment by RIPE NCC. How can you tell one from the other? Is the lack of an org: attribute reliable

Re: Consumer Grade - IPV6 Enabled Router Firewalls.

2009-12-13 Thread Mark Newton
On 14/12/2009, at 9:38 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: > I hope you're right. I really hope that there's this phenomenal transition > in 2011 of content from 0.1% IPv6-accessible to 99% IPv6-accessible. Forget content, they're just along for the ride. When most service providers have eye-wateringly shit

RE: Consumer Grade - IPV6 Enabled Router Firewalls.

2009-12-13 Thread Frank Bulk
Thanks for the link. The most obvious question to me is scalability. What box is going to be running AFTR to do all this translation? It looks like the B4 part is running on the customer's CPE, but if we need to move hundreds of Mbps, if not Gbps, wouldn't that require some C/J/F class type of b

Re: Consumer Grade - IPV6 Enabled Router Firewalls.

2009-12-13 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Mark Newton writes: > Of course, all of this is predicated on the notion that CGNs will > actually exist. As far as I can tell they're all vapourware at the > moment. Comcast commissioned ISC to develop a working CGN. We are in the final release stages of our CGN product, AFTR.

Re: Consumer Grade - IPV6 Enabled Router Firewalls.

2009-12-13 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Sunday, December 13, 2009 9:17 AM -0800 Joel Jaeggli wrote: UPnP is a bad idea that (fortunately) doesn't apply to IPv6 anyway. You don't need UPnP if you'r not doing NAT. wishful thinking. you're likely to still have a staeful firewall and in the consumer space someone is likely

Re: Consumer Grade - IPV6 Enabled Router Firewalls.

2009-12-13 Thread Mark Newton
On 13/12/2009, at 10:10 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: > While the support burden will be raised, I think the network needs to be > dual-stack from end-to-end if SPs want to keep middle-boxes out. But for > those who really do run out of IPv4 addresses, I'm not sure how middle-boxes > can be avoided. Ki

Re: Consumer Grade - IPV6 Enabled Router Firewalls.

2009-12-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Dec 10, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Michael Loftis wrote: > >> >> >> --On Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:23 PM -0800 Mehmet Akcin >> wrote: >> >>> Would you consider Juniper SSG5 as a Consumer Grade router? >>> >>> They do IPv6 and they are pretty good in general, and cheap as

Re: Consumer Grade - IPV6 Enabled Router Firewalls.

2009-12-13 Thread Mohacsi Janos
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Mohacsi Janos a écrit : On Thu, 3 Dec 2009, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: Mohacsi Janos wrote: According to Apple the latest Apple Airport Extreme does support DHCPv6 prefix delegation and native IPv6 uplink not only 6to4. Airports don't

Re: Consumer Grade - IPV6 Enabled Router Firewalls.

2009-12-13 Thread Mohacsi Janos
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Frank Bulk a écrit : I think they're (all) listed here: http://www.getipv6.info/index.php/Broadband_CPE And from an operators perspective (not manufacturer): Free ISP ADSL (and fiber) operator in France does IPv6 natively to the end user with