Re: Gig Throughput on IPSEC

2009-11-11 Thread Joakim Aronius
* Truman Boyes (tru...@suspicious.org) wrote: > > an SRX 3400/3600 you can scale up the performance of IPSEC VPN > throughput with additional SPCs. You should be able to scale to over > 6Gbps of IPSEC with enough SPCs. > > Truman Yes, the SRX line of products is the most future-proof way to go

Re: Gig Throughput on IPSEC

2009-11-11 Thread Truman Boyes
On 12/11/2009, at 5:45 AM, Brad Fleming wrote: On Nov 11, 2009, at 3:25 AM, a...@baklawasecrets.com wrote: Hi, I have a requirement to encrypt data using IPSEC over a p-t-p gig fibre link. In the past I've normally used Juniper to terminate VPNs, as I have found them excellent devices

Re: What DNS Is Not

2009-11-11 Thread David Ulevitch
On 11/11/09 12:48 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: Since people need to *explicitly* choose using the OpenDNS servers, I can hardly see how anybody's wishes are foisted on these people. If you don't like the answers you get from this (free) service, you can of course choose to use a different service -

Re: Resilience - How many BGP providers

2009-11-11 Thread David Hiers
It is wise to stack the deck in your favor, but you'll never really know how much real redundancy you've purchased: http://www.atis.org/ndai/ATIS_NDAI_Final_Report_2006.pdf David On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:41 PM, wrote: > I suppose I could take the whole resilience thing further and further

RE: Resilience - How many BGP providers

2009-11-11 Thread adel
I suppose I could take the whole resilience thing further and further and further. One of the replies used a phrase which I thing captured the problem quite nicely: "diminishing returns". Basically I could spend lots and lots of money to try and eliminate all single points of failure. Clearl

[NANOG-announce] NANOG 48 Call for Presentations now available

2009-11-11 Thread David Meyer
Folks, The NANOG 48 Call for Presentations is now available at http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog48/index.php. Please take a look at the important dates, and submit your proposals at http://pc.nanog.org. Look forward to seeing you all in Austin.

Re: What DNS Is Not

2009-11-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:48:39 +0100, Florian Weimer said: > > Since people need to *explicitly* choose using the OpenDNS servers, I > > can hardly see how anybody's wishes are foisted on these people. > > > > If you don't like the answers you get from this (free) service, you > > can of course choos

Re: What DNS Is Not

2009-11-11 Thread sthaug
> > Since people need to *explicitly* choose using the OpenDNS servers, I > > can hardly see how anybody's wishes are foisted on these people. > > > > If you don't like the answers you get from this (free) service, you > > can of course choose to use a different service - for instance your > > ISP'

Re: What DNS Is Not

2009-11-11 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 11, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: >> Since people need to *explicitly* choose using the OpenDNS servers, I >> can hardly see how anybody's wishes are foisted on these people. >> >> If you don't like the answers you get from this (free) service, you >> can of course choose to use

RE: What DNS Is Not

2009-11-11 Thread Jason Granat
Run your own nameservers or get a different ISP that doesn't force you to be filtered :-) -Original Message- From: Florian Weimer [mailto:f...@deneb.enyo.de] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 12:49 PM To: sth...@nethelp.no Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: What DNS Is Not > Since people

Re: What DNS Is Not

2009-11-11 Thread Florian Weimer
> Since people need to *explicitly* choose using the OpenDNS servers, I > can hardly see how anybody's wishes are foisted on these people. > > If you don't like the answers you get from this (free) service, you > can of course choose to use a different service - for instance your > ISP's name serve

Performance to and from Japan (who to connect to?)

2009-11-11 Thread Operations
Greetings, Im sure someone here is GREAT with connecting to Japan so I ask the following: We have a POP in 600 West 7th street, Los Angeles. What provider can I cross-connect to there to get better performance to Japan? Are there Japanese providers on net in that building? Anyone want t

Re: Gig Throughput on IPSEC - alternatively Layer2 encryption devices

2009-11-11 Thread adel
Hi, Thanks for the pointers to the Juniper devices. I think I'm really thinking about layer2 encryption, rather than do the encryption using IPSEC. I feel that as its a p-t-p fibre link, this makes most sense in terms of throughput and least impact on the network. Operating at layer3 the IP

Re: Resilience - How many BGP providers

2009-11-11 Thread Steve Gibbard
The thing to remember about redundancy is that it's a statistical game rather than a magic formula. You can be reasonably sure that any single component will go down at some point. Nothing works perfectly. Few things last forever. If you have two fairly reliable components, and if they're s

Re: Gig Throughput on IPSEC

2009-11-11 Thread Brad Fleming
On Nov 11, 2009, at 3:25 AM, a...@baklawasecrets.com wrote: Hi, I have a requirement to encrypt data using IPSEC over a p-t-p gig fibre link. In the past I've normally used Juniper to terminate VPNs, as I have found them excellent devices and the route based VPN functionality very usef

Re: Resilience - How many BGP providers

2009-11-11 Thread Jay Hennigan
Dylan Ebner wrote: IF you only have one entrance, all you connections are going to run through that conduit, and that makes you susceptable to a rouge backhoe. Not just the rouge ones. The big yellow ones are far more common and can do just as much damage. -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Ne

RE: Resilience - How many BGP providers

2009-11-11 Thread Dylan Ebner
You question has many caveats. Just having two providers does not necessarily get you more resiliency. If you have two providers and they are terminating on the same router, then you still have a SPOF problem. You also need to look at pysical paths as well. If you have two (or three) providers

Resilience - How many BGP providers

2009-11-11 Thread adel
Hi, After recent discussions on the list, I've been thinking about the affects of multiple BGP feeds to the overall resilience of Internet connectivity for my organisation.  So originally when I looked at the design proposals, there was a provision in there for four connections with the same

RE: Transit from Cogent - thoughts?

2009-11-11 Thread Scott Berkman
I also suggest reading the Wikipedia page on Cogent. -Scott -Original Message- From: Jay Moran [mailto:jay+na...@tp.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:12 AM To: a...@baklawasecrets.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Transit from Cogent - thoughts? Adel, Perhaps the be

Re: Gig Throughput on IPSEC

2009-11-11 Thread Jian Gu
You can run L2TPv3 (available on IOS routers) between sites, not sure about the throughput though. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:01 AM, wrote: > > >  On second thoughts, thinking about this I am probably looking for some > kind of Layer2 encryption devices.  This will make things a lot easier > for

Re: Transit from Cogent - thoughts?

2009-11-11 Thread Jay Moran
Adel, Perhaps the best way for you to get an answer to your question without the entire list erupting for no good reason is to click on the following link which will show all messages from the NANOG mailing list about Cogent. Then you can make your decision based on past conversations as opposed t

Re: Transit from Cogent - thoughts?

2009-11-11 Thread Bret Clark
Cogent has been brought up several times over the last year. I suggest searching http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/nanog/users/ Otherwise you've just reopened a can of worms again. On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 15:04 +, a...@baklawasecrets.com wrote: > > Contemplating using Cogent Communic

Transit from Cogent - thoughts?

2009-11-11 Thread adel
Contemplating using Cogent Communications for transit as pricing looks favourable.  Just trying to get a feel for what sort of a reputation they have in the network operators community.  I'm sure people have horror stories for every provider, but just trying to get a general idea of what sort o

Re: Gig Throughput on IPSEC

2009-11-11 Thread adel
On second thoughts, thinking about this I am probably looking for some kind of Layer2 encryption devices.  This will make things a lot easier for the deployment.  Any experiences, thoughts on these types of devices, would be much appreciated. Adel On Wed 9:25 AM , a...@baklawasecrets.com se

Gig Throughput on IPSEC

2009-11-11 Thread adel
Hi, I have a requirement to encrypt data using IPSEC over a p-t-p gig fibre link.  In the past I've normally used Juniper to terminate VPNs, as I have found them excellent devices and the route based VPN functionality very useful.  However looking at their range, only the ISG will do a gig of