Re: Documentation of switch maps

2009-02-26 Thread Gergely Antal
Hi try netdot (https://netdot.uoregon.edu/trac/) It's a pretty good stuff ,but not easy to setup Blake Pfankuch wrote: > Howdy. > > Had a customer come to me this morning who wanted to create a > document for their switching infrastructure and thought I would > bounce it off the rest of the worl

Re:Internet access using VRF aware NAT

2009-02-26 Thread Shivlu Jain
Hi Devang We are using the vrf nat where the customer demands the firewall services. For implementing this we are advertising a default route and vrf nat is used per VPN basics.This is the rate services in case of whole sale. Actual implementation; we are creating a INTERNET VRF which is having a

Road Runner DNS servers

2009-02-26 Thread Ricardo Oliveira
Is there anyone clueful in this list from Road Runner(Time Warner Cable) that can explain what's going on with their DNS servers - just contacted their tech support and heard their DNS servers have been under attack over the last 3 days.. thanks, --Ricardo

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Jo Rhett
On Feb 25, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Ray Corbin wrote: It depends on your environment. I've seen where it is helpful and where it is overwhelming. If you are a smaller company and want to know why you keep getting blocked then those should help. If you are a larger company and get a several hundred

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Brian Keefer
On Feb 26, 2009, at 5:08 PM, J.D. Falk wrote: Blocking an entire site just because one John Doe user clicked a button they don't even understand just does not make sense. You're right -- but Yahoo! has a sufficiently large userbase that they can count multiple complaints before blocking an

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:45 AM, J.D. Falk wrote: > Many recipients of complaint feedback actually /want/ to receive every > complaint, because -- like John Levine -- they treat those complaints as > unsubscribe requests. That's ONE use case. But we are not senders, and we do use a feedback loop

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread J.D. Falk
Barry Shein wrote: I suggested that probably 99% of the false positives I see could be avoided by just waiting until there are two or more complaints from the same source before firing it back as spam. I've developed systems for ISPs to handle inbound complaints from AOL & such, and that's ex

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Carl Ford
very old news. their filter restrictions have some very absurd rules On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Micheal Patterson < mich...@spmedicalgroup.com> wrote: > This may be old news, but I've not been in the list for quite some time. At > any rate, is anyone else having issues with Yahoo blocking

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread J.D. Falk
Brian Keefer wrote: The other options is to stuff all the spam messages in a folder and expose them to the user, taking up a huge amount of storage space for something the vast majority of users are never going to look at any way. Which is, in fact, what Yahoo! does by default. Users have the

Internet access using VRF aware NAT

2009-02-26 Thread devang patel
Hello, Have one question about VRF aware NAT for internet access! If we will enable the VRF aware NAT on local PE to have an internet access via central Internet PE then we will not have connectivity to any other VPN site as all local CE prefixes will be translated to the loopback IP address of th

Re: Documentation of switch maps

2009-02-26 Thread Adam Armstrong
Blake Pfankuch wrote: Howdy. Had a customer come to me this morning who wanted to create a document for their switching infrastructure and thought I would bounce it off the rest of the world on how you usually do this. Typically I use a spreadsheet with outlines to define the "switch" and th

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Feb 26, 2009, at 2:00 PM, John R. Levine wrote: You're that confident people know the difference between a real communication from a party they conversed with before and a phish designed to look like the same thing? What I worry about is when software is used to scrape lists such as

RE: Documentation of switch maps

2009-02-26 Thread Gregory Boehnlein
Man.. I'd love to have this for Netgear switches! :) > -Original Message- > From: Bielawa, Daniel W. (NS) [mailto:dwbiel...@liberty.edu] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:07 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: RE: Documentation of switch maps > > Hello, > > We use switchmap h

RE: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Ray Corbin
$0.02 within > -Original Message- > From: Barry Shein [mailto:b...@world.std.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:29 PM > To: Suresh Ramasubramanian > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. > > > On February 26, 2009 at 06:55 ops.li...@gmail.com (Sures

Re: Documentation of switch maps

2009-02-26 Thread Ingo Flaschberger
Dear Blake, Had a customer come to me this morning who wanted to create a document for their switching infrastructure and thought I would bounce it off the rest of the world on how you usually do this. Typically I use a spreadsheet with outlines to define the "switch" and then outlines for t

RE: Documentation of switch maps

2009-02-26 Thread Bielawa, Daniel W. (NS)
Hello, We use switchmap here for tracking port utilization, days inactive, and devices connected. It uses SNMP to determine the information. http://switchmap.sourceforge.net/ Thank You Daniel Bielawa Network Engineer Liberty University Information Services -Original Message- F

Documentation of switch maps

2009-02-26 Thread Blake Pfankuch
Howdy. Had a customer come to me this morning who wanted to create a document for their switching infrastructure and thought I would bounce it off the rest of the world on how you usually do this. Typically I use a spreadsheet with outlines to define the "switch" and then outlines for the port

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread John R. Levine
You're that confident people know the difference between a real communication from a party they conversed with before and a phish designed to look like the same thing? If it's a bank, probably not. If it's a random online store, there's about a 99.9% chance it's actual junk mail and .01% that

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Brian Keefer
On Feb 26, 2009, at 8:28 AM, John R. Levine wrote: This also pre-dates organized crime becoming heavily involved, and pre-dates the obsession with browser exploits. Back then a lot of spam was sent by semi-legitimate marketers from the US. These days all the bad guys are out to get you to

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Feb 26, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Alexander Harrowell wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:28 PM, John R. Levine wrote: This also pre-dates organized crime becoming heavily involved, and pre-dates the obsession with browser exploits. Back then a lot of spam was sent by semi-legitimate marketers

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:28 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > This also pre-dates organized crime becoming heavily involved, and >> pre-dates the obsession with browser exploits. Back then a lot of spam was >> sent by semi-legitimate marketers from the US. These days all the bad guys >> are out to g

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Steven Champeon
on Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 02:17:14PM -0500, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:44:13 PST, JC Dill said: > > > Universities are often major sources of spam. Spam is sent directly > > from virus-infected student computers, > > Got any numbers to back up the claim that virus-in

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread John R. Levine
This also pre-dates organized crime becoming heavily involved, and pre-dates the obsession with browser exploits. Back then a lot of spam was sent by semi-legitimate marketers from the US. These days all the bad guys are out to get you to click on a single link. Right. Back in the 90s spamm

RE: Problem With E1

2009-02-26 Thread Durrani, Mo
If the router is cisco , you also wanna check the code and see if there are any known bugs on the code track. We had a simmiliar issu with an IOS and BGP. But , I do agree with Darel , as well. Mo Durrani >TDS Telecom >IP Network Engineering >608-664-5698 mo.durr...@tdstelecom

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Brian Keefer
On Feb 26, 2009, at 6:59 AM, John Levine wrote: Nor should they. Anyone who actually researches this stuff knows that the vast majority of "unsub" links simply confirm you as a live target who will click on random links sent to them through e-mail. That's the conventional wisdom, not con

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread John Levine
>Nor should they. Anyone who actually researches this stuff knows that >the vast majority of "unsub" links simply confirm you as a live target >who will click on random links sent to them through e-mail. That's the conventional wisdom, not confirmed by research. The FTC tried it in 2002 a

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread John Levine
>I suggested that probably 99% of the false positives I see could be >avoided by just waiting until there are two or more complaints from >the same source before firing it back as spam. Perhaps, but different people have different heuristics. There's nothing keeping you from writing your own de-d

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Tony Finch wrote: > Mailman's bounce parser is clever enough that there's no manualarity. > > AOL's ARF redaction also causes problems identifying problem .forwarders. > I don't understand what they are trying to defend against. If you want to enable verp with mai

Re: AOL, was Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread John R. Levine
AOL's ARF redaction also causes problems identifying problem .forwarders. I don't understand what they are trying to defend against. Oh, I went around with them a few times and finally got a reasonable explanation. They're concerned about disclosing the recipient of a message to someone who d

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Tony Finch
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, John R. Levine wrote: > > Sounds like it might be time to reconsider your mailing list config. A decade > ago, bandwidth was really expensive and it made sense to try to load up lots > of recipients per delivery. These days it's essentially free, and any saving > in bandwidth

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread John R. Levine
AOL sends its spam button feedback in industry standard ARF format. It took me about 20 minutes to write a perl script that picks out the relevant bits from AOL and Hotmail feedback messages and sends unsub commands to my list manager. Yes, but you're using qmail and ezmlm which send separate co

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Tony Finch
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, John Levine wrote: > > AOL sends its spam button feedback in industry standard ARF format. It > took me about 20 minutes to write a perl script that picks out the > relevant bits from AOL and Hotmail feedback messages and sends unsub > commands to my list manager. Yes, but you

RE: Problem With E1

2009-02-26 Thread Graham, Darel
Using an external CSU? Power cycle it. Using Frame Relay? Have provider check card in Frame switch, if the port reads 65535 the buffers are full. Have the provider reset the card (shared memory cards are bad). Without configuration info or other supporting info it will be difficult to tell wh

RE: Problem With E1

2009-02-26 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
> -Original Message- > From: Shivlu Jain [mailto:shivlu.j...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:05 AM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Problem With E1 > > Since morning I am facing a issue in which one of E1 is configured under > OSPF. OSPF neighborship is up but not able t

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-26 Thread Rich Kulawiec
This discussion is probably *much* more appropriate on the mailop list. (It's been mentioned there and on other MTA/spam-related lists, as apparently whatever Yahoo's doing is having widespread impact.) ---Rsk

Problem With E1

2009-02-26 Thread Shivlu Jain
Since morning I am facing a issue in which one of E1 is configured under OSPF. OSPF neighborship is up but not able to send and receive the data. The configuration is plain vanila. Why it is happening so; I donot know? -- Thanks & Regards shivlu jain http://shivlu.blogspot.com/ 09312010137