Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
With a large enough userbase, misdirected spam complaints become far less of a factor. Lets put it this way .. one or two users can forget and report the same email as spam. If a whole bunch of users do that, not just a few, then either two things. 1. You have a problem or 2. There's a mass ou

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-24 Thread Stefan Molnar
For our userbase with yahoo/hotmail/aol accouts they hit the spam button more often than delete. Then complain they do not get emails anymore from us, then want discounts on a bill of sale they missed. It is a never ending story. --Original Message-- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian To: M

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Micheal Patterson wrote: > > SPF records aren't being recognized, I've been running them for some time > now so it would seem that they're not honoring them. > Christ .. Yahoo did say "complaints". And it can take a very low level of complaints before a block goe

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-24 Thread Micheal Patterson
- Original Message - From: "Erik (Caneris)" To: "Joe Abley" ; "Micheal Patterson" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:11 PM Subject: RE: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Ditto. They appear to use some strange form of greylisting combined with blocking. What seems to help is SPF

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-24 Thread Stefan Molnar
They are accepting them by the 250 code, but never endup on the user mailbox. This was just within the last week. Fun Fun --Original Message-- From: Micheal Patterson To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Sent: Feb 24, 2009 6:27 PM This may be old news, but I've

RE: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-24 Thread Erik (Caneris)
Ditto. They appear to use some strange form of greylisting combined with blocking. What seems to help is SPF and PTRs that match the EHLO your MTAs will send. We didn't implement Domain Keys / DKIM. On a related note, don't get me started on Hotmail. They used to (still do?) silently swallow m

RE: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-24 Thread Carlos Alcantar
i ran into the same issue pulled my hair out for a little bit. Make sure you have domain keys / dkim and spf implemented on your mail servers and domains. Once I did that all was smooth sailing. Carlos Alcantar Race Technologies, Inc. 101 Haskins Way South San Francisco, CA 94080 P: 650.246.890

Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-24 Thread Joe Abley
On 24 Feb 2009, at 21:27, Micheal Patterson wrote: This may be old news, but I've not been in the list for quite some time. At any rate, is anyone else having issues with Yahoo blocking / deferring legitimate emails? Yes. Everybody else. Joe

Yahoo and their mail filters..

2009-02-24 Thread Micheal Patterson
This may be old news, but I've not been in the list for quite some time. At any rate, is anyone else having issues with Yahoo blocking / deferring legitimate emails? My situation is that I host our corporate mx'ers on my network, one of the companies that we recently purchased has Yahoo hostin

Re: comcast price check

2009-02-24 Thread Chris Wallace
How much "scheduled" downtime was there? ---Chris On Feb 23, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Justin Wilson - MTIN wrote: In a "Former Life" we used Comcast for transport for a school corporation. In the 3 years we used them we have 10 minutes of unscheduled downtime. Justin

Re: switch speed question

2009-02-24 Thread deleskie
Switches like this and the force10 2410 and the like are cut through so do sub micro second versus a 'regular' store and forward switch --Original Message-- From: Holmes,David A To: Deric Kwok To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: switch speed question Sent: Feb 24, 2009 1:03 PM Arista claims

RE: Routing issue to Lunarpages/California Regional Internet

2009-02-24 Thread Murphy, Jay, DOH
For Lunar Pages: 1-877-586-2772 or, 1-714-521-8150 (US/Canada) For CA Regional Intranet: 1-888-221-5902 x2 Jay Murphy IP Network Specialist NM Department of Health ITSD - IP Network Operations Santa Fe, New Mexico 87502 Bus. Ph.: 505.827.2851 "We move the information that moves your world."

[NANOG-announce] NANOG 46 Call for Presentations

2009-02-24 Thread Todd Underwood
NANOG 46 Call for Presentations == The North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) will hold its 46th meeting June 14-17, 2009 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. NANOG 46 will be hosted by Comcast. The NANOG Program Committee is now seeking proposals for Presentations,

Routing issue to Lunarpages/California Regional Internet

2009-02-24 Thread Clinton Popovich
Does anyone have a contact for either of these two companies, we are seeing some routing issues somewhere on their network and would like to contact their network engineers. I have tired all contacts listed on their whois as well as their general support phone number to no avail. 67.210.117.

RE: Illegal header length in BGP error

2009-02-24 Thread Matthew Huff
We were using PMTUD. However: 1) The link was iBGP and was done via crossever with both having default MTU 2) I tried disabling PMTUD with no difference 3) Cisco admitted it was a known bug, and downreving it to 12.4(15)T resolved the issue. Matthew Huff   | One Manhattanville Rd OTA M

Re: Illegal header length in BGP error

2009-02-24 Thread Paul Cosgrove
Are you using PMTUD? We saw this on a couple of our route reflectors and on one occasion picked it up in a capture. So I can say that the issue is due to bad packets being sent, rather than an inaccurate error. It can be reported differently according to where the corruption occurs (e.g. un

Re: switch speed question

2009-02-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Roy said: > I think your math is faulty. While there may be 24G going in and 24G > going out, there is only 24G crossing the backplane. You can't count a > bit twice (once on in and once on out). Its the same bit. Not every bit in results in just one bit out. Broadcast, mult

Re: switch speed question

2009-02-24 Thread Roy
Eric Gearhart wrote: > > > Note that the traffic to a switch is bi-directional (full duplex) - so > a 24 port gigabit switch can max out its 32 Gig backplane, if all 24 > ports have a gig coming in and going out (24 X 2 is 48, more than the > 32 gig backplane). > > > I think your math

RE: switch speed question

2009-02-24 Thread Holmes,David A
Arista claims to have the fastest 1/10 Gig 24 and 48 port 1RU switch, with a backplane capacity guaranteeing 10 Gig full duplex line rate per port. Cisco's CEF is local only and functions to download the arp cache and routing table into ASICs for hardware switching; but look at Cisco's NSF/SSO fo

Re: switch speed question

2009-02-24 Thread Tony Varriale
That isn't always true. Some switches are already speced as full. It's best to read the product docs or speak with a rep to be sure. tv - Original Message - From: "Eric Gearhart" To: "NANOG list" Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:51 AM Subject: Re: switch speed question On Tue,

RE: Illegal header length in BGP error

2009-02-24 Thread Mills, Charles
I ran into exactly the same thing during a code upgrade a few weeks ago. I wrote it off as a bug in BGP and backed off the code until a new release was out. I was also running 12.4(22)T On an NPE-G2. Chuck -Original Message- From: Renaud RAKOTOMALALA [mailto:ren...@rakotomalala.com] S

Re: switch speed question

2009-02-24 Thread Eric Gearhart
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Bruce Grobler wrote: > Hi, > > It depends on how heavily loaded your switch is expected to be, for instance > two machines using the switch will be able to get a full 1Gbps, however > depending on the backplane (switching fabric), it limits how many ports will > re

RE: Illegal header length in BGP error

2009-02-24 Thread Matthew Huff
Yep, got a reply from cisco. It's a cisco bug: " CSCsj36133 Internally found severe defect: Resolved (R) Invalid header length BGP notification when sending withdraw The router that is running the affected software generates enough withdraws to fill an entire BGP update message and can

Re: Illegal header length in BGP error

2009-02-24 Thread Renaud RAKOTOMALALA
Hello Matthew, We changed the motherboard from cisco one of our from 7206VXR (NPE-G1) to 7206VXR (NPE-G2). Due to incompability with the IOS 12.3(4r)T3 we upgraded this IOS to 12.4(12.2r)T. At the end we've got the same problem as you between one of our 7200 in 12.3 and the new one in 12.4 .

Illegal header length in BGP error

2009-02-24 Thread Matthew Huff
One of our upstream providers flapped this morning, and since then they are sending corrupted BPG data. I'm running 12.4(22)T on cisco 7200s. I'm getting no BGP errors from that providers and the number of routes and basic sanity check looks okay. However, when it tries to redistribute the bgp rout

Re: Gmail down?

2009-02-24 Thread Henry Linneweh
Status Update 2/24/2009 Many of our users had difficulty accessing Gmail today. The problem is now resolved and users have had access restored. We know how important Gmail is to our users, so we take issues like this very seriously, and we apologize for the inconvenience. -henry   _

Re: ISIS route summarization (it's a wrap)

2009-02-24 Thread Jack Bates
People were nice to point out that my memory does function correctly, but I did receive a single suggestion to spark the fire back to life in my brain. The suggestion was ISIS for infrastructure only, and iBGP for carrying all customer routes, which will lower the ISIS costs during a state chan

RE: Gmail down?

2009-02-24 Thread Bernd
I guess gmail is working everywhere on the globe again. We encountered the same problems here in Austria (web, imap was working all the time), too, but everything seems to be fine at the moment. Greets from the snowy Tyrol, Bernd -Original Message- From: Luigi Iannone [mailto:lu...@ne

Re: Gmail down?

2009-02-24 Thread Luigi Iannone
In Germany was down as well, but now works fine again. Luigi On Feb 24, 2009, at 13:16 , Sarunas Vancevicius wrote: The web interface is down in Ireland too. But IMAP access is working fine. On 12:12, Tue 24 Feb 09, Tobias Bartholdi wrote: yup, down in switzerland too... -Original Messa

Re: Gmail down?

2009-02-24 Thread Sarunas Vancevicius
The web interface is down in Ireland too. But IMAP access is working fine. On 12:12, Tue 24 Feb 09, Tobias Bartholdi wrote: > yup, down in switzerland too... > > -Original Message- > From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [mailto:bortzme...@nic.fr] > Sent: Dienstag, 24. Februar 2009 12:12 > To: Hank

Re: Gmail down?

2009-02-24 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Feb 24, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Murtaza wrote: Problem was seen here in Pakistan too. But, now its ok as I am sending this email :). On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Stefan wrote: Only account-level failure - same system, using different browsers, going after different accounts - fails one

Re: Gmail down?

2009-02-24 Thread Murtaza
Problem was seen here in Pakistan too. But, now its ok as I am sending this email :). On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Stefan wrote: > Only account-level failure - same system, using different browsers, > going after different accounts - fails one in three. > > Stefan > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at

Re: Gmail down?

2009-02-24 Thread Stefan
Only account-level failure - same system, using different browsers, going after different accounts - fails one in three. Stefan On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:25 AM, Christian Schmuck wrote: > There is a notice on the Gmail support page (http://mail.google.com/support/): > > Status Update > 2/24/2009

RE: Gmail down?

2009-02-24 Thread Christian Schmuck
There is a notice on the Gmail support page (http://mail.google.com/support/): Status Update 2/24/2009 We're aware of a problem with Gmail affecting a number of users. This problem occurred at approximately 1.30AM Pacific Time. We're working hard to resolve this problem and will post updates as

RE: Gmail down?

2009-02-24 Thread Tobias Bartholdi
yup, down in switzerland too... -Original Message- From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [mailto:bortzme...@nic.fr] Sent: Dienstag, 24. Februar 2009 12:12 To: Hank Nussbacher Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Gmail down? Indeed, down for me too, from France: % telnet mail.google.com http Trying 72.

Re: Gmail down?

2009-02-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
Indeed, down for me too, from France: % telnet mail.google.com http Trying 72.14.221.19... Connected to googlemail.l.google.com. Escape character is '^]'. GET / HTTP/1.0 Host: mail.google.com [Nothing]

Gmail down?

2009-02-24 Thread Hank Nussbacher
-Hank

RE: ISIS route summarization

2009-02-24 Thread Ivan Pepelnjak
The short answer is "NO". L2 IS-IS is a single SPF domain and all routers are supposed to have identical view of the network. If you want IS-IS-provided aggregation, you need to use L1 and L2. There are only two protocols that allow unlimited levels of aggregation: BGP and EIGRP :) Ivan http:/

RE: switch speed question

2009-02-24 Thread Bruce Grobler
Hi, It depends on how heavily loaded your switch is expected to be, for instance two machines using the switch will be able to get a full 1Gbps, however depending on the backplane (switching fabric), it limits how many ports will receive full 1Gbps when the switch is congested, e.g. a 2 gig backpl

Re: Charter.net email routing issues

2009-02-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Graeme Fowler wrote: > I'd be very pleased to know about the other lists, especially as in > previous years I've always come up against brick walls - "you're not big > enough, go away" or "we don't know you, go away". Not especially > helpful, especially as the lat

Re: Charter.net email routing issues

2009-02-24 Thread Graeme Fowler
Meta: I'm one of the mailop list admins... On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 07:50 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Anybody actually on that list? Most of the serious mailops work is on > some other, entirely different lists. There are almost 400 on the list now, and it grows with every single mention