Re: an over-the-top data center

2008-11-30 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 30, 2008, at 10:50 PM, Niels Bakker wrote: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick W. Gilmore) [Mon 01 Dec 2008, 02:34 CET]: On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Jean-François Mezei wrote: The advantage of this swedish data centre is that even if its location is well known, it is pretty hard to harm the b

Re: an over-the-top data center

2008-11-30 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick W. Gilmore) [Mon 01 Dec 2008, 02:34 CET]: On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Jean-François Mezei wrote: The advantage of this swedish data centre is that even if its location is well known, it is pretty hard to harm the building. You can't run a truck full of explosives i

RE: an over-the-top data center

2008-11-30 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
> >Fault free datacenters include neither people, nor computers, nor >connectivity, nor HVAC, nor electricity. If you can eliminate those >things you will have a 100% uptime datacenter. > >Andrew Is this the network equivalent of Yin and Yang, or Darkness and Light being the same? Perhaps it is

Re: an over-the-top data center

2008-11-30 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Jean-François Mezei wrote: > >> The thing about a carrier hotel is that it cannot be a secret location >> since you need to allow various carriers and ISPs to have physical >> access to the building so they can install/manage their >> servers

Re: an over-the-top data center

2008-11-30 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Jean-François Mezei wrote: The thing about a carrier hotel is that it cannot be a secret location since you need to allow various carriers and ISPs to have physical access to the building so they can install/manage their servers/routers/switches. The advantage of th

Re: an over-the-top data center

2008-11-30 Thread Wayne Feick
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 16:19 -0500, William Allen Simpson wrote: > At one point some time ago, on NANOG we discussed putting exchanges in old > minuteman silos. (so long ago a quick Google didn't find it -- where are all > the old NANOG archives?) > http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aedu.meri