Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

2008-09-16 Thread Matthew Moyle-Croft
On 16/09/2008, at 10:17 PM, *Hobbit* wrote: So in cases like this where the community appears to agree that there's a consistently bad apple, what's preventing everyone from simply nullrouting the netblocks in question and imposing the death penalty? Dunno - but something did occur to me th

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

2008-09-16 Thread *Hobbit*
you expect them to apply a null route? Well, I *have* been talking somewhat idealistically here and there with this crop of questions, but frankly I thought in the 2 or 3 years I was ignoring the list that the NETWORK OPERATORS ostensibly in custody of the intertubes would have pulled things to

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

2008-09-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:47:26 -, *Hobbit* said: > So in cases like this where the community appears to agree that there's > a consistently bad apple, what's preventing everyone from simply "what's preventing everyone"? Geez Hobbit, I *know* you've been around long enough to know better than th

Re: LoA (Letter of Authorization) for Prefix Filter Modification?

2008-09-16 Thread Joe Greco
> It is only a good audit trail if the audit log can be trusted, though. Given > how "secure" things like faxes are, well, that's a thing for another day, I > suppose. > > Very few things out there in today's interconnected world really provide > "hard" security, instead of security theatre/CY

RE: LoA (Letter of Authorization) for Prefix Filter Modification?

2008-09-16 Thread Skywing
It is only a good audit trail if the audit log can be trusted, though. Given how "secure" things like faxes are, well, that's a thing for another day, I suppose. Very few things out there in today's interconnected world really provide "hard" security, instead of security theatre/CYA/minor dete

Re: Procedure to Change Nameservers

2008-09-16 Thread Joe Maimon
Crist Clark wrote: This should be easy. But sometimes things that seem like they should be easy are not. I want to change the nameservers for a bunch of domains. Really, all I want to do is change the IP address, but it seems easier just to change both the name and IP to avoid any possibility

Re: Procedure to Change Nameservers

2008-09-16 Thread Mike Lewinski
Crist Clark wrote: 9) Turn off DNS services at old-dns1 and old-dns2 (i.e. take out the firewall rules that allow queries to those addresses). 10) ... 10 ) Use one of the various sanity checking sites to validate some subset of your hosted domain configurations. We used to like http://www.

Re: Procedure to Change Nameservers

2008-09-16 Thread Mark Jeftovic
Crist Clark wrote: This should be easy. But sometimes things that seem like they should be easy are not. I want to change the nameservers for a bunch of domains. Really, all I want to do is change the IP address, but it seems easier just to change both the name and IP to avoid any possibility

Procedure to Change Nameservers

2008-09-16 Thread Crist Clark
This should be easy. But sometimes things that seem like they should be easy are not. I want to change the nameservers for a bunch of domains. Really, all I want to do is change the IP address, but it seems easier just to change both the name and IP to avoid any possibility of confusion. However,

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

2008-09-16 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (*Hobbit*) writes: > So in cases like this where the community appears to agree that there's > a consistently bad apple, what's preventing everyone from simply > nullrouting the netblocks in question and imposing the death penalty? http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/ seems to have atr

Re: Creating a visual Map of a network?

2008-09-16 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello Subba , On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am being tasked to map a network. In the past I have used nmap to find the systems on the local LAN and remote LANs (same enterprise). This time I want to create a visual map of the LAN. With cheops, I reasonably good res

Re: LoA (Letter of Authorization) for Prefix Filter Modification?

2008-09-16 Thread Joe Greco
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Christian Koch wrote: > > I dont mind, i think it is another good step towards 'good filtering' > > but...i think the PITA part is > > downstream 'clueless' customers, who may need an explanation on prefix > > hijacking and the state > > of the internet today, and that these

Re: Creating a visual Map of a network?

2008-09-16 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This time I want to create a visual map of the LAN. Intermapper. http://dartware.com/network_monitoring_products/intermapper/index.html -Bill

Re: community real-time BGP hijack notification service

2008-09-16 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Kevin Oberman wrote: Looks interesting, but it only takes a fairly short list of ASNs for a prefix. For our big CIDR blocks, we have WAY too many ASNs to enter them all, so it's pretty useless for me. I need to be able to enter at very least a dozen ASes and I suspect may fol

IPv6 Penetration Survey: Your Participation Requested

2008-09-16 Thread Member Services
The American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN), in cooperation with the Cooperative Association for Internet Data Analysis (CAIDA), is conducting a new survey to gather data regarding current and future use of IPv6. We have expanded the scope of the survey to seek IPv6 penetration data

Re: Re: Anyone know Wiltel's EWAN service

2008-09-16 Thread 정치영
Sorry, it is Los Angeles. I don't know whether our circuit is ralative to ATT oc12 = Chi-Young Joung SAMSUNG NETWORKS Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel +82 70 7015 0623, Mobile +82 17 520 9193 Fax +82 70 7016 0031 ==

Re: LoA (Letter of Authorization) for Prefix Filter Modification?

2008-09-16 Thread Christian Koch
good point... :) On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Jon Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Christian Koch wrote: > >> I dont mind, i think it is another good step towards 'good filtering' >> but...i think the PITA part is >> downstream 'clueless' customers, who may need an expl

Re: LoA (Letter of Authorization) for Prefix Filter Modification?

2008-09-16 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Christian Koch wrote: I dont mind, i think it is another good step towards 'good filtering' but...i think the PITA part is downstream 'clueless' customers, who may need an explanation on prefix hijacking and the state of the internet today, and that these are all just combin

RE: LoA (Letter of Authorization) for Prefix Filter Modification?

2008-09-16 Thread Randy Epstein
>Is this a common practice? Our past experience indicates that a simple >request to a NOC or update of a routing registry usually is sufficient. > >Regards, >Mauricio Rodriguez >FPL Fibernet, LLC Cogent AFAIK have been doing this for years. Not many others require this unless there is a serious

Re: LoA (Letter of Authorization) for Prefix Filter Modification?

2008-09-16 Thread Christian Koch
I dont mind, i think it is another good step towards 'good filtering' but...i think the PITA part is downstream 'clueless' customers, who may need an explanation on prefix hijacking and the state of the internet today, and that these are all just combined efforts to minimize the risk of accepting a

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

2008-09-16 Thread *Hobbit*
So in cases like this where the community appears to agree that there's a consistently bad apple, what's preventing everyone from simply nullrouting the netblocks in question and imposing the death penalty? Sorry if this seems naive, but if no legitimate purpose is shown it seems like the obvious

Re: LoA (Letter of Authorization) for Prefix Filter Modification?

2008-09-16 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Rodriguez, Mauricio wrote: Recently, one of our Transit providers has started requiring a Letter of Authorization for addition of any of our own Transit customers' prefixes to their filters. The verbiage of the LoA basically states that the owner of the assignment or allo

Re: Anyone know Wiltel's EWAN service

2008-09-16 Thread charles
La as in Los Angeles? Or Louisiana? There we're numerous strange issues last night in Los Angeles with T-Mobile that were caused by att loosing some oc12 circuits. That could have affected other carriers I'm sure. --Original Message-- From: ChiYoung Joung To: nanog ReplyTo: [EMAIL PRO

LoA (Letter of Authorization) for Prefix Filter Modification?

2008-09-16 Thread Rodriguez, Mauricio
Recently, one of our Transit providers has started requiring a Letter of Authorization for addition of any of our own Transit customers' prefixes to their filters. The verbiage of the LoA basically states that the owner of the assignment or allocation (not necessarily our customer) allows us to

Re: Internet Traffic Begins to Bypass the U.S.

2008-09-16 Thread Mark Prior
Jean-François Mezei wrote: >> For instance, out of Australia we have a single, old cable going West >> out of Perth to Singapore (SEA-ME-WE3) which allows only low speed >> circuits, > > Was there any thought about building cables to singapore from darwin now > that it has had fibre links to t

RE: confusing packet data

2008-09-16 Thread Darden, Patrick S.
Or his DSL is set to bridging. --p -Original Message- From: Nathan Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:47 AM To: nanog list Subject: Re: confusing packet data On 16/09/2008, at 4:43 PM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > Are you running Skype? Have you become a s

ATT BGP turnup issue -- FIXED

2008-09-16 Thread Erik Sundberg
This issue was finally resolved by ATT.. No need to contact me... Thanks Erik

Re: Creating a visual Map of a network?

2008-09-16 Thread Colin Alston
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am being tasked to map a network. In the past I have used nmap to find the > systems on the local LAN and remote LANs (same enterprise). > > This time I want to create a visual map of the LAN. With cheops, I > reasonably good results but cannot be documented for ma

RE: [SPAM-HEADER] - Today's Point-2Point WAN Options - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses

2008-09-16 Thread Rod Beck
Actually, it is not true that Layer 2 Ethernet is 'best effort'. It depends. There are Layer 1 Ethernet products that involve no Layer 2 switching or Layer 2 routing, just an efficient and transparent mapping of Ethernet into SDH/SONET. And some of those products can be upgrade in 50 meg inc

Creating a visual Map of a network?

2008-09-16 Thread castellan2004-nsm
I am being tasked to map a network. In the past I have used nmap to find the systems on the local LAN and remote LANs (same enterprise). This time I want to create a visual map of the LAN. With cheops, I reasonably good results but cannot be documented for managers with certainty. What are so

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

2008-09-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 16, 2008, at 1:55 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: By the way, a lot of folks are watching all domains registered within Atrivo/Intercage IP address space every day. Here's a few for you to decide -- and they have been registered only in the past few days: undaground.biz pillshere.net ukrnic.inf

ATT AS7018 turnup BGP issue

2008-09-16 Thread Erik Sundberg
Can someone from ATT with BGP configuration access please contact me off list, the provisioning group has been having trouble turnup our BGP session on our 2xOC3 to AS7018 since 12AM and now its 4:30AM. Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Internet Traffic Begins to Bypass the U.S.

2008-09-16 Thread Max Tulyev
Jean-François Mezei wrote: Did western europe ever really have a primary route via the USA to reach asia ? (I realise that during the cable cuts in middle east last year, traffic might have been rerouted via USA but this would be a temporary situation). Yes. And the main issue is not technical

Anyone know Wiltel's EWAN service

2008-09-16 Thread ChiYoung Joung
I have EWAN circuits of Wiltel(currently same company with Level3 you know) as my backbone circuit in LA. About 2 months ago, there were some packet loss on L2 circuit, but I didn't get any clear answer from Level3 support center. It became okey without any action, but now, same problem happen ag