RE: Independent Testing for Network Hardware

2008-07-21 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
I do highly recommend Core Competence, especially for security gear. Dave Piscitello is the real deal. From: Thomas Maufer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:13 PM To: Sean Hafeez Cc: Frank P. Troy; [EMAIL

Re: Independent Testing for Network Hardware

2008-07-21 Thread Thomas Maufer
Isocore is good, but there are many others to choose from: Network Test, ExtremeLabs, Miercom, Core Competence, Opus One, in no particular order. I can personally recommend all of those (I have no experience with Tolly so I can't recommend them). If you are really interested in application perform

RE: virtual aggregation in IETF

2008-07-21 Thread Paul Francis
How's this for a summary of what you are saying: Some ISPs can get away with software routers, most can't. Of those that can't, planning ahead by vendors and ISPs has allowed most ISPs to manage reasonably with well FIB growth. Nevertheless, some protocol tools to help manage FIB growth would be

Re: Line rate gigabit router/switch options

2008-07-21 Thread Matthew Elmore
I think a J series would be the way to go as well. Even the 4350 claims 1Gbps+ forwarding. To give you an idea of cost, a J4350 will list about $5k J6350 will list about $10.5k. The 8-port GigE PIMs list at $1800 per, 16-port GigE PIM (dual height) at $3000. Of course, those are list prices

RE: Independent Testing for Network Hardware

2008-07-21 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
For independent testing, Kevin Tolly's been at it a long time, and has shown himself to be fair. http://www.tolly.com/ > -Original Message- > From: Sean Hafeez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 2:07 PM > To: Frank P. Troy > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: connectivity to MSN

2008-07-21 Thread Nick Shank
Everything should be up and running, and I haven't gotten a ticket to the contrary. A tracert works for me, but I'm behind the firewall, so it's of no use to anyone else. ~Nick -Original Message- >From: Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Jul 21, 2008 7:56 AM >To: nanog@nanog.org >Su

Re: connectivity to MSN

2008-07-21 Thread Paul Wall
Microsoft filters traceroute, etc to various web properties at their border. Paul Wall On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone having problems with MSN? Depending on which AS I use the traceroute > dies in different places, but most of the time it dies in

connectivity to MSN

2008-07-21 Thread Matt Liotta
Anyone having problems with MSN? Depending on which AS I use the traceroute dies in different places, but most of the time it dies in AS 8075. However, MSN does seem accessible from XO and Comcast. -Matt

RE: Cisco vs Adtran vs Juniper

2008-07-21 Thread Paul Stewart
Thanks very much we're looking a series of models currently and all the feedback I've received so far has been extremely helpful... Best regards! Paul -Original Message- From: Matthew Elmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:19 AM To: nanog Subject: Re: Cisco v

Re: virtual aggregation in IETF

2008-07-21 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Joel Jaeggli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That said I think you're headed to high end again. It has been > routinetly posited that fib growth hurts the people on the edge more > than in the center. I don't buy that for the reason outlined in my > original response. If my pps requirements are mod

Re: Cisco vs Adtran vs Juniper

2008-07-21 Thread Matthew Elmore
On Jul 18, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Eric Van Tol wrote: I'm looking for some constructive feedback on **real world** experiences please... We're split pretty evenly between Cisco and Juniper boxes and are happy with both. It all really depends on the services you want to sell or support for y

Re: NMS for Carriers

2008-07-21 Thread Neil J. McRae
> We're kicking off a project to find a new NMS and I thought you guys > might have some helpful advice. > > We're a smallish telco (on an island, infact) so we have a very wide > range of kit to monitor, from servers to routers to dslams and all that > dirty voice stuff. > > Which software are you

NMS for Carriers

2008-07-21 Thread Adam Armstrong
Hi All, We're kicking off a project to find a new NMS and I thought you guys might have some helpful advice. We're a smallish telco (on an island, infact) so we have a very wide range of kit to monitor, from servers to routers to dslams and all that dirty voice stuff. Which software are yo