Re: Same AS number from different location and Migration of IP addresses

2008-05-24 Thread bmanning
sure it is. the magical anycast, used by many for DNS service delivery oes exactly this. --bill On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 07:15:52PM -0500, devang patel wrote: > Hello, > > Is that okay to use Same AS number for the two different site on different > location? > > regards > Devang Patel

Re: amazonaws.com?

2008-05-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Barry Shein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even when someone declines a charge it doesn't mean you can't collect > what you believe to be money legitimately owed you. You can hand it to > a collection agency if it's worthwhile. If not (e.g., you took a card > w/o any

RE: Same AS number from different location and Migration of IPaddresses

2008-05-24 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Patrick, Your usage is quite consistent with the RFC 1930 guidelines on the use of AS, which probably does need some updating but does have an operational rather than a protocol theory viewpoint. Specifically, an AS is defined not as a business entity, not as a routing domain, but as: "...a

Re: amazonaws.com?

2008-05-24 Thread Barry Shein
On May 24, 2008 at 12:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Seth Mattinen) wrote: > > And 6 months later, a chargeback shows up because the cardholder claims > their card was used fraudulently. The bank will most likely side with > the cardholder if you challenge it. How can that loophole be closed? Since

Re: amazonaws.com?

2008-05-24 Thread Seth Mattinen
Barry Shein wrote: > not to excuse this, but... it's not a simple problem. The 'bad guy' > rolls up to the website, orders 200 machines for 20 mins under the > name 'xplosiveman' pays with some paypal/CC and runs his/her job. That > job happens to create a bunch of email outbound. It could be

Re: amazonaws.com?

2008-05-24 Thread Barry Shein
> not to excuse this, but... it's not a simple problem. The 'bad guy' > rolls up to the website, orders 200 machines for 20 mins under the > name 'xplosiveman' pays with some paypal/CC and runs his/her job. That > job happens to create a bunch of email outbound. It could be a > legitimate ema

Re: [NANOG] An account of the Estonian Internet War

2008-05-24 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
Gadi, I read it. As it happens, about a year ago I plowed through a bunch of Information Operations (formerly known as Information Warfare) papers in a then-linkable bibliography on the subject. Your GJIA paper is of that genre. There wasn't enough for me to distinguish between an ad insert c

Re: amazonaws.com?

2008-05-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Kee Hinckley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On May 24, 2008, at 3:24 AM, Colin Alston wrote: >> >> You should not accept SMTP from the Amazon EC2 cloud at all. Amazon don't >> intend for anyone to use it as an email platform and tell their clients to >> use an extern

Re: OT: problems getting to our net in maroc

2008-05-24 Thread Randy Bush
thanks all. MT seems to have fixed it. randy

OT: problems getting to our net in maroc

2008-05-24 Thread Randy Bush
apologies for operational content. pfs and i are debugging access to/from the afnog class network in rabat. the net is 196.200.216.0/21. for example route-views.oregon-ix.net>traceroute 196.200.216.102 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 196.200.216.102 1 vl-51.uonet1-gw.uoreg

Re: Fake-alert: VERIFY YOUR MERIT.EDU WEBMAIL ACCOUNT

2008-05-24 Thread Graeme Fowler
On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 17:02 +0200, Peter Dambier wrote: > I dont trust it: Quite right too, it's a spear-phishing attack. This is currently an almost daily occurrence for .edu domains. The compromised accounts are frequently abused via webmail systems, being used to send out more scams. The scam

Re: amazonaws.com?

2008-05-24 Thread Kee Hinckley
On May 24, 2008, at 3:24 AM, Colin Alston wrote: You should not accept SMTP from the Amazon EC2 cloud at all. Amazon don't intend for anyone to use it as an email platform and tell their clients to use an external relay. I'm sure this is good advice. But if an ISP used that as an excuse for

Re: Fake-alert: VERIFY YOUR MERIT.EDU WEBMAIL ACCOUNT

2008-05-24 Thread Ari Constancio
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Peter Dambier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I dont trust it: > > yahoo address, not nanog. > > Passwords asked ??? Of course, they're 'upgrating' the accounts :). > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ari Constancio

Re: Same AS number from different location and Migration of IP addresses

2008-05-24 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On May 24, 2008, at 9:15 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On May 23, 2008, at 8:15 PM, devang patel wrote: Is that okay to use Same AS number for the two different site on different location? To answer this specific question, Autonomous Systems should be topologically convex. This means, at th

Fake-alert: VERIFY YOUR MERIT.EDU WEBMAIL ACCOUNT

2008-05-24 Thread Peter Dambier
I dont trust it: yahoo address, not nanog. Passwords asked ??? Kind regrards Peter Original Message Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Flags: 1000 Delivered-To: GMX delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 May 2008 09:21:30 - Received: from

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-24 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sat, May 24, 2008, Randy Bush wrote: > i am greatly amused by all the poor country hicks so worried about > having to go to the big scary city. when arriving, sweet virginia, > please be sure to scrape that right off your shoes. Meh. I'm from the most remote pretend-city in the western world

Re: Same AS number from different location and Migration of IP addresses

2008-05-24 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On May 23, 2008, at 8:15 PM, devang patel wrote: Hello, Is that okay to use Same AS number for the two different site on different location? To answer this specific question, Autonomous Systems should be topologically convex. This means, at the Internet interdomain routing (BGP) level,

re: Same AS number from different location and Migration of IPaddresses

2008-05-24 Thread Robert MacDonald
(I'm sending from a non text-only system at the moment, sorry.) These should help on the merging part. [1]http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_4/ip_route/configuration/guid e/hbgpdas.html [2]http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122s/122 snwft/release/122

Re: Same AS number from different location and Migration of IP addresses

2008-05-24 Thread Diogo Montagner
Hi Devang, a good start point is the Internet Routing Architecture book: http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=157870233X Regards, Diogo On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:15 PM, devang patel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Is that okay to use Same AS number for the two different

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-24 Thread Randy Bush
i am greatly amused by all the poor country hicks so worried about having to go to the big scary city. when arriving, sweet virginia, please be sure to scrape that right off your shoes. randy

Re: amazonaws.com?

2008-05-24 Thread Colin Alston
On 24/05/2008 02:42 Steve Atkins wrote: If you're seeing something more egregious than just deluges of spam then [EMAIL PROTECTED] would likely be the right people to talk to. They've been contacted about it and, AIUI, state that the spam being sent from there is not something they're going to t