Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Sean Donelan
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, micky coughes wrote: I can see that *everybody* is missing the point on Peter's exercise. Clearly this is to show to the telcos of the world that you can upgrade to a native IP infrastructure and absorb the existing transport into the router with a minimal effort. There was

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Jeff Kell
Randy Bush wrote: you're not going to find any 40GB capable CPE now or in the foreseeable future that's going to be affordable for the residence. i would agree if we had not once said that about a few meg per sec. If we continue along orders of magnitude, sure it's foreseeable. * 30 ye

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread micky coughes
On 7/12/07, Robert Blayzor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know the intention of the article was to demonstrate the technological advantage of fiber optic networking vs. other technologies, but to mask the article around something that seems to indicate that "40GB to the home" is somehow the cu

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Patrick Giagnocavo
On Jul 12, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Robert Blayzor wrote: I know the intention of the article was to demonstrate the technological advantage of fiber optic networking vs. other technologies, but to mask the article around something that seems to indicate that "40GB to the home" is somehow the c

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Randy Bush
> you're not going to find any 40GB capable CPE now or in the > foreseeable future that's going to be affordable for the residence. i would agree if we had not once said that about a few meg per sec. randy

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Blayzor
Joel Jaeggli wrote: How practical is it really also that you need CRS-1 at the residence for this. I agree with Sean. Since for most people the line card alone costs more than the house. :-) 40Gb/s per slot routers are not that rare at this point. So the notion that you need a crs-1 in order

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Robert Blayzor wrote: > How practical is it really also that you need CRS-1 at the residence for > this. I agree with Sean. Since for most people the line card alone > costs more than the house. :-) 40Gb/s per slot routers are not that rare at this point. So the notion that you need a crs-1 in

Re: some musings on PI v. PA

2007-07-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
David Meyer wrote: OTOH, if I announce PI space, "switching to the new path" is controlled by the announcement/withdrawal of the PI prefix, and can happen much closer to the source. So in this sense aggregation breaks a certain kind of "path selection". I

some musings on PI v. PA

2007-07-12 Thread David Meyer
I've been thinking about a benefit of PI addressing that I have not seen discussed on this list or others (at least recently). In particular, PI addressing enables a certain kind of "path selection" that might not be easy (or possibly desirable) to retain i

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Blayzor
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: I have to disagree, considering the amount of people I've had to convice that this really is a single 50GHz wave using 40G per second over DWDM system designed for 10G and that it was router "LC - optical amplification - LC" Well yes, the technology is quite cool,

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Randy Bush
> I have to disagree, considering the amount of people I've had to convice > that this really is a single 50GHz wave using 40G per second over DWDM > system designed for 10G and that it was router which is, i believe, the point of the publicity stunt. unfortunately, it does not help with us need

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Steve Meuse
On 7/12/07, Brandon Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouldn't residential fiber be > expected to radiate out from neighborhood break-out boxes, or at the > longest from a central office in the middle of town, rather than having > some central point where enough individual strands of fib

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jul 12, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Robert Blayzor wrote: Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: It's a demonstration of backbone technology, not really access technology. It's not even that. We all know that 40G technology exists today, this article doesn't prove anything. On the contrary, I think that

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Robert Blayzor wrote: It's not even that. We all know that 40G technology exists today, this article doesn't prove anything. I have to disagree, considering the amount of people I've had to convice that this really is a single 50GHz wave using 40G per second over DWDM

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Sean Donelan
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Brandon Butterworth wrote: Wouldn't residential fiber be expected to radiate out from neighborhood break-out boxes, or at the longest from a central office in the middle of town, rather than having some central point where enough individual strands of fiber converged to serv

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Robert Blayzor
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: It's a demonstration of backbone technology, not really access technology. It's not even that. We all know that 40G technology exists today, this article doesn't prove anything. How about they fling their magic wand some more and show us where 40G to the residenti

juniper netscreen & cisco ios ipsec

2007-07-12 Thread matthew zeier
This might border OT but I'm going crazy trying to get this IPSEC up between these two boxes (both in NA so maybe it is OT). If anyone has done so, drop me a line?

FW: [address-policy-wg] IPv6 PI policy implemented

2007-07-12 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
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