On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:31:51 + (GMT)
"Chris L. Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> in 3-5 years. Off Topic: The privacy and security ramificati
On 6/29/07, Rich Emmings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Topicality: Looks like someone, somewhere intends to be live with IPv6 in 3-5
years.
Off Topic: The privacy and security ramifications boggle the mind
Fully mobile, high speed botnets?
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Seth Mattinen wrote:
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> So we should deploy IPv6... I get it. The argument comes up time
> and time again. I would do it tomorrow - nay, today - if I had an answer
> to one thing: How the heck do I multihome? I have v6 space from Sprint
> to play with, but I'm reluctant to use it because I can't
Mark IV systems has a spec for OTTO. Mark IV makes automatic toll
collection and related systems O(Not to mention other automotive products)
The system spec's show support for IPv6 and SNMPv3. Notably absent was IPv4
as far as I could tell. No notes on if the IPv6 would be used for Firmwar
So we should deploy IPv6... I get it. The argument comes up time
and time again. I would do it tomorrow - nay, today - if I had an answer
to one thing: How the heck do I multihome? I have v6 space from Sprint
to play with, but I'm reluctant to use it because I can't multihome with it.
The end us
Hi John,
I am not offering an elegant technical solution that would be worthy of an RFC
number! :) But I am saying that the Internet of today will evolve organically
and that there are a number of ways you can get by with what we have for a long
time until things get really ugly.
Justin sugge
>If you have a plan for continued operation of the Internet
>during IPv4 depletion, please write it up as an RFC.
if you have a simple and usable plan for ipv6 transition, please write
it up in any readable form!
randy
Steve -
If you have a plan for continued operation of the Internet
during IPv4 depletion, please write it up as an RFC. Our
present Internet routing scheme is predominantly working
based on hierarchical routing but I'm certain there are
alternatives.
/John
At 5:42 PM +0100 6/28
John Curran wrote:
> Interoperability is achieved by having public facing
> servers reachable via IPv4 and IPv6.
The end to end principle is preserved by having hosts have unique public
ip addresses which are routed so they can be reached.
Hi John,
I wasnt specifically thinking of reclamation of space, I was noting a couple
of things:
- that less than 50% of the v4 space is currently routed. scarcity will
presumably cause these non-routed blocks to be:
:- used and routes
:- reclaimed and reassigned
:- sold on
- that much of
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007, Stephen Wilcox wrote:
First is the belief that the Internet will suddenly break on the day
when the last IP block is allocated by an RIR - the fact that most of
the v4 space is currently not being announced may mean we have many
years before there are real widespread shor
Steve -
For the first end site that has to connect via IPv6,
it will be very bad if there is not a base of IPv6
web/email sites already in place.
While there are going to efforts to recover unused
IPv4 space, we're currently going through 10 to 12
blocks of /8 size annua
Hmm I find this topic quite interesting.
First is the belief that the Internet will suddenly break on the day when the
last IP block is allocated by an RIR - the fact that most of the v4 space is
currently not being announced may mean we have many years before there are real
widespread shortag
Alexander Harrowell wrote:
5. But there's no incentive to change until enough others do so to
make it worthwhile.
5a. And consumer access products (aka Linksys-style routers and router
equipped DSL/cable modems) make it's implementation simple enough for
the average techophobe customer to
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:00:36 BST, Alexander Harrowell said:
> 1. IPv4 address space is a scarce resource and it will soon be exhausted.
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> 2. It hasn't run out already due to various efficiency improvements.
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> 3. These are themselves limited.
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> 4. IPv6, though, will provide abundant addres
> I'm working on it ... But I think it will be really difficult to capture in
> a couple of pages what the document try to explain !
A. v4 runs out, use v6 or similar
B. not run out of v4
The detail of A and B may safely be debated by all for some time as
nobody knows what will happen, feel fre
On 6/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:33:25 EDT, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ said:
> I'm working on it ... But I think it will be really difficult to capture in
> a couple of pages what the document try to explain !
The story goes:
Richard Feynman, the late
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:33:25 EDT, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ said:
> I'm working on it ... But I think it will be really difficult to capture in
> a couple of pages what the document try to explain !
The story goes:
Richard Feynman, the late Nobel Laureate in physics, was once asked by a
Caltech fac
I'm working on it ... But I think it will be really difficult to capture in
a couple of pages what the document try to explain !
Regards,
Jordi
> De: Iljitsch van Beijnum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Fecha: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:25:22 +0200
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On 27-jun-2007, at 21:08, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
I've published a document trying to analyze the IPv4 exhaustion
problem and
what is ahead of us, considering among others, changes in policies.
http://www.ipv6tf.org/index.php?page=news/newsroom&id=3004
Ugh, a link to a page with a li
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